Bachmann, Geithner, Bernanke and the Constitution
March 25th, 2009 – 12:22 PM by Jim KernWhen Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke testified about the AIG bailout at a House hearing on Tuesday, Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota was among those questioning them. She pressed them about what authority the Constitution granted for actions taken by the Treasury Department and the Fed in the past year. Both cited authority granted by Congress. Here’s the video of their exchange.
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I am soooo embarassed for you guys, for minnesota.
My god, hurry up and get Franken to washington. Get anyone there. Send arnold the pig.
I bet Giethner and Bernanke kept thinking this is some kind of a trick questioning. This can’t be real.
tiny, tell me you didn’t vote for this crazy lady. We all know Dare2 did, but reasonable people should know better. Not voting at all would be better than voting for her. What a nutterbutter.
The thing that scares me the most about that exchange though is not Bachmann herself but that Geithner was flustered by her inane questions. It makes me fear he’s just as dumb as she is. Bernanke was able to give smart answers though to her dumb questions. I like this Bernanke guy. I’m concerned Geithner is an empty suit.
“WASHINGTON – U.S. officials have confirmed that North Korea is loading a Taepo Dong rocket on its east coast launch pad for the expected launch of a communications satellite early next month.”
What are the odds that Kim Jong Il has any idea how funny it sounds to English-speaking Americans to call a missile a dong?
Don’t make me mad… I’ll shoot you with my dong….
Are you sure that wasn’t a trailer from
a yet to be released Coen brothers movie?
Especially in light of the problems they’ve had getting and keeping their Dongs up.
I mean, seriously, if you’re going to try to terrorize the world with the prospect of nuclear missile attack, don’t call it something that will make people laugh in your face.
Getting back to the Congressional hearing, and speaking of laughing in someone’s face. I don’t think I could have sat there and pretended to take Ms. Bachmann’s questions seriously. I mean, when she started in on asking whether Bernanke was opposed categorically to China, Russia and Kazhakstan’s evil plan to force us onto a single world currency, hoo boy, if I were Ben Bernanke I would have laughed in her face and told her to loosen the chin strap on her tin foil hat to improve circulation.
Michele Bachmann is on the Shawn Hannity show right now, and she’s great as always. She’s been making the national news in a positive way.
“Can a person be a Wealthyophobe or a Richophobe ?”
Can a Newspaper be “Bachmannphobics”
Michele is on the Jason Lewis show right now! KTLK-FM 100.3, and it’s national.
Liberals just can’t stand it when a woman or minority dares to be conservative, so they attack.
If that isn’t proof that she’s a maximum ditz what does?
Her constitutional questions were ridiculous since the constitution allows for this action BY CONGRESS!!!
Does this lady not even know what the roll is of the body she serves? UGHHHH!!!!!
Why in your right might would you support this person? She’s not even aware of the roll of her position or what is allowed by the constitution.
“Liberals just can’t stand it when a woman or minority dares to be conservative, so they attack. ”
You moron .. people of this state are embarassed by her.
Don’t you get it? Listen to what she said in teh clip!!! she comes across as a complete idiot!
Of course .. maybe you speak the same language and that’s why it’s so appealing..
“Does this lady not even know what the roll is of the body she serves? UGHHHH!!!!!”
I’ll take a shoot in the dark but I’ll bet 1/3 of the member of congress are equal idiots.
I see some of these people that are in congress or TV Stars or the guy in the three digit figure salary range and I just wonder “How the hell did this happen”.
Like Bachmann? Its a big district and this is the best you can do. Rybeck the guy is a complete moron yet there he is. A million people in that city and this is the guy? Flavor Flav (William Jonathan Drayton Jr.)Flavor Flav ????
Life is not fair and it is stranger then fiction.
“You moron .. people of this state are embarassed by her.”
Maybe you liberals are Greg, but people who are resisting the Obama administrations attempt to push us into radical soci@lism think she doing a great job.
Keep up the good work Michele! We’re very proud of you in the 6th. district.
Lets name the new currency “Worldo”.
Liberals just can’t stand it when a woman or minority dares to be conservative,
I mean, when she started in on asking whether Bernanke was opposed categorically to China, Russia and Kazhakstan’s evil plan to force us onto a single world currency,
I think I’ve finally figured it out. It’s been right in front of me and so obvious, but I just couldn’t believe it was true. But first there was Palin, then Joe the plumber, and Rush is their now admitted leader…
Conservatism = Lunacy. It’s no longer a political point of view but a sane vs. insane situation. Black helicopters and furriners are comin’ for our wumin and it really is a giant race to the bottom of the intellectual barrel. And look no further than the right’s elevation, no, make that deification of this Aliens Ate My Homework piece of work.
And ironically it’s the same Ignorance Rules faction that forced me from the party long ago are the same forces running the show now that Tiny finds himself so attracted to.
What’s the deal, to be a conservative you have to want people dumber than you running the country? Because it sure seems like it, and with how stupid you idiots are that’s a doubly frightening thing.
I’d ask, “Didn’t Bush teach you anything?” but you’d answer, “Yeah, that we needed to dumb things down further.”
God bless you Michele!
The libs just don’t like truth tellers. Just look at the responses to my posts on the financial crisis. Not a fact=based response from the libs. It only proves my point – this financial crisis was caused primarily by government action.
QED
Next thing the libs will be telling you that atherosclerosis isn’t an inflammatory response to injury of a blood vessel.
“Life is not fair and it is stranger then fiction. ”
No doubt!!
Seriously .. I really couldn’t believe those words came out of her mouth though.
The Repeal of Glass-Steagall
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum
For Mark; Any resemblance between this link and an mea culpa is purely coincidental. (It might be Mother Jones but Kevin Drum is as moderate as they get)
D2 .. I could care less if you’d call me a liberal or a conservative since you have no idea what either entails and probably never will.
What I do know is that you’re definately one of the idiots who believe the idiotic garbage and lies that person throws out.
Do you honestly feel proud of what she said during that hearing? Did you even understand how ridiculous it was?
Did you?
Did you even understand how ridiculous it was?
Understand? He was validated by it. When it’s you against the world, anything that tweaks the world is a good thing, no matter how stupid it is.
A lot like being an 8 year old. Any attention is good attention.
“I mean, when she started in on asking whether Bernanke was opposed categorically to China, Russia and Kazhakstan’s evil plan to force us onto a single world currency, hoo boy,”
What she said was: (paraphrasing, but much better than you did)
“We’ve seen calls from China, Russia and Kazhakstan for a conversion to an International currency and would categorically renounce that”
My point is to support accuracy, not Bachmann. Both said they did renounce it. Yet today Geithner said he was open to the Chinese plan.
I think they both lied.
Geithner today:
The continued use of the dollar as a reserve currency, he added, “depends..on how effective we are in the United States…at getting our fiscal system back to the point where people judge it as sustainable over time.”
From renouncing it, to “depends” in one day.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0309/Geithner_open_to_China_proposal.html?showall
There was a reason I gave up on tags
Honest to god this women is a complete and total menace to society not to mention a moron. D2 and Bachmann deserve each other.
At about the 2:20 mark she mentions China Russia and Kazakistan. Is there such a nation as Kazakistan?
And this business of badgering Geithner on where in the constitution does the treasury have this authority??? Are you fvcking sersious? Please point to the section of the constitution where Bush and LBJ had authority to start “wars†without declarations??? Oh thats right the congress granted the authority, the same as they did with this financial crisis. Tiny, honestly, you should be ashamed this women represents you AND that you voted for her out of spite.
“Is there such a nation as Kazakistan?”
Yep.
Way to go Michele keep it up.
Stupid LIB don’t like question about The Constitution Of America because they don’t respect it.
They would rather give illegal immigrant rights or terrorist because they earned it. and screw the the tax payer to pay for it. Time for americans to stand up to liberal nut cases and take back America HOME OF THE FREE AND LAND OF THE BRAVE
“I’m one of the conservatives obama warned you about”
Yes, the libs are in perpetual crabby mode this year, and it IS obvious why!
Morons have risen to full power in D.C.
and the economy is in full retreat.
Yes, MB, a real live lawyer, right?
Right? Passed bar exam, right?
Probably passed on the first time, unlike genius Hillary…..
How dare she question these people, sayeth our BQ misogynists.
Gawd, she has more education than likely any of her feeble critics on this page.
Yet, these same critics here, ala Parth, have all the science training of a Mpls North High School junior, yet they are effen experts on global warming.
It is really too funny!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh joy .. there’s another idiot in the compound.
I wonder which garb he’s got this one dressed up in…
He’s Nancy, CNC is Nancy .. so .. I think this new one is Nancy too huh?
All in a hot tub diddling each other screamin ..
“I get to be Michelle!”
6DJ ..
If she’s so brilliant, why did she make the statements and ask the questions she did?
Can you honestly say the first adjective you’d apply to that scene is brilliant?
Some of us probably wouldn’t do well in a liberal crowd but see this for what it’s worth …
And how delusional are our beloved lefties? I invite my rightie friends and fellow fans of MB to recall parts of this classic ODE to the BIG DEM WIN in 11/2006.
How is it workin’ out for everyone?
The realists dont like MB? Count me out as a “realist.”
And maybe Rahm and Schumer should have chosen principle….. 
)
The Realists Take Charge
By Joe Klein Sunday, Nov. 12, 2006
This was a big deal. Certainly, it was the end of George W. Bush’s radical experiment in partisan governance.
In fact, if there was a common strand in last week’s Democratic victories and Republican defeats, it was the ascendancy of realists.
The exit polls indicate that the war was not the main issue in the 2006 election: the general odor of corruption and incompetence emanating from Washington seemed to be the real motivator.
First, there is the muscular realism of the Democrats who ran the election campaigns, Schumer and Emanuel. They chose their candidates on pragmatism, not principle.
This election was not only about a disastrous war and the stench of corruption, it was also about a style of politics–the slashing negative politics practiced by a generation of media consultants in both parties. It was a message to politicians: stop slinging the manure, and start getting serious about the nation’s problems.
It’s not impossible that this arcane little adjustment will restore bipartisan compromise to its honored place as the essential act in a working democracy, and restore pork to its sordid, if greasily necessary, corner of the legislative dance. “We may actually have to work on Saturdays,” Reid said, in a reference to the bankers’ hours kept by the Republican Congress.
Reid’s modest promise that his Senators will have some mud on the outside of their boots is realistic … and also kind of exhilarating.
“Yep.”
Kazakistan is a country? I dont think so. She said, “Kazak ‘eh’ stan”,
not kazakhstan, which is a huge country bordering China and Russia and the home of Borat. She said Kazak ‘eh’ stan, big difference.
“Stupid LIB don’t like question about The Constitution Of America because they don’t respect it.”
You stupid fvcking partisan monkey. If congress can give the president authority to invade another country and its legal, then by god they can give the UST authority to bail out banks. The constitution of america? Drink another beer fruit loop.
Greg 63 says:
6DJ ..
If she’s so brilliant, why did she make the statements and ask the questions she did?
Because she is making the fundamental point, o lazy and crabby one. And ohhhh, your insults, oh they are so powerful. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Gawd, you are lame.
The simple answer for our uneducated Greg: (Did you get your GED, yet?)
So much of what our legislatures and judiciaries do has zero basis within the constitution:
abortion
gay marriage
bailing out AIG
These arent difficult or complicated thoughts that the lawyer Bachmann is asking.
Indeed, MB is simply parroting from famous scholars like Scalia, who raise these obvious points on a regular basis.
I fully understand why these things may go over your head, and I bear you no ill will for your lack of schooling…..
And look at Deacon (speaking of needing to get his GED):
so all those people screaming that it was “an illegal war,” were really just wingnuts?
How the leftie opinions change based upon who is in power.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course, the Scalia’s of the world are truly simple mental midgets compared to the immense knowledge of our BQ’ers like Deacon and Greg
)
So much for thinking 6DJ was out of the moron compound.
Apply brilliant to her all day long but just look one above you to figure out why she comes across as far less than brilliant.
And please .. grace us with your overwhelming education ..
from where …
Cracker Jack U?
“Of course, the Scalia’s of the world are truly simple mental midgets compared to the immense knowledge of our BQ’ers like Deacon and Greg
) ”
Nah .. I’d think Scalia far more intelligent in a courtroom than I.
But I’d probably do a bit better in mechanical engineering than he.
“so all those people screaming that it was “an illegal war,†were really just wingnuts?”
Well werent they? Say what you will about the wisdom of invading Iraq, congress voted to give that authority to Bush so no, it wasnt illegal as far as conress is concerened.
“How the leftie opinions change based upon who is in power.”
You cant be this stupid. Its not possible. First, you dont know me. Im not a liberal lefty wingnut, thats Parthian. Second look whos talking. All of a sudden the Right is concerned with the constitution? Third if Bachmann doesnt understand that congress has the right to give specific authorities to the Admin, in this case the UST in Iraqs case the DOD, then she is the one in need of a GED.
“These arent difficult or complicated thoughts that the lawyer Bachmann is asking.”
Obviously things passed by congress can be overturned by the supreme court as unconstitutional. Look at some of the legislation FDR passed. But then she needs to take that up with them and stop acting like the UST and the FED are acting on their own without specific concent from congress.
“Yes, MB, a real live lawyer, right?
Right? Passed bar exam, right?”
This is your excuse? Would you trust Jack Prescot to defend you in a murder case? All Lawyers are equal in your mind apparently. She is an expert in tax law which has nothing to do with constitutinal law. Would you ask a pediatrist to give you a root c@nal?
Greg 63 says:
Nah .. I’d think Scalia far more intelligent in a courtroom than I.
But I’d probably do a bit better in mechanical engineering than he.
Well, lookie here.
Maybe I owe Greg an apology! He will accept a Scalia as expert. See: lawyers like MB didnt fall off the turnip truck. At the same time, her points here are pretty much torn from the Scalia playbook.
Anybody who isnt following the WAY TOO obvious MB line of questioning isnt worth my time or effort of debating.
As a throwout to CNC and D2, be sure and read Coulter’s “follow the money”
column tonite that parrots MB’s line of questioning (money trumps the constitution): a highlight…..
ANN COULTER:
…………………….
Last September, The New York Times reported that individuals associated with the securities and investment industry had given $9.9 million to the Obama campaign, $7.4 million to the Hillary Clinton campaign and only $6.9 million to the McCain campaign. Either they’re all Democrats or some commodity named “hope” was going through the roof last year.
Employees of Lehman Bros. alone gave Obama $370,000, compared to about $117,000 to McCain. (No wonder Bush let them go under.)
According to an analysis of Federal Election Commission records by the Center for Responsive Politics, the top three corporate employers of donors to Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Rahm Emanuel were Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and JPMorgan. Six other financial giants were in the top 30 donors to the White House Dream Team: UBS AG, Lehman Bros., Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, Merrill Lynch and Credit Suisse Group.
Since 1998, the financial sector has given a total of $37.6 million to Obama, compared to $32.1 million to McCain. But Obama ran for his first national office only in 2004. So McCain got less from the financial industry in a decade that included two runs for president than Obama did in four years.
As we’ve seen in recent weeks, Wall Street gets what it pays for. Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd included language in the stimulus bill allowing executives of the bailed-out banks to collect million-dollar bonuses.
And yet the Democrats’ endless favors for their Wall Street friends never sticks to them because everyone treats Democrats’ shilling for their own contributors as if it’s a Nixon-goes-to-China moment.
…………………………
Apology accepted, but that is far from saying that I’d think MB to be anything more than an idiot.
All lawyers are not the same .. of course maybe that’s how you think.
And now for lunatic Coulter… uh huh.
You’ve pretty much declared just how legitimate your intellect is.
How’s life in the compound?
Deacon:
All I am saying is she is a bright, highly educated woman who is basically “plagarizing” her points from perhaps the brightest Supreme Court jurist.
The insults that attempt to marginalize her intellect are laughable, so I cant get even the slightest angry or upset over the “big insults” tossed on this blog. I just laugh: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Indeed, reading the early comments on this thread reveal no understanding of where she is coming from…….or from whom’s intellect she is regurgitating.
All Im saying Jim, is being a lawyer means dick. Bachmann obviously is smart enough to balance a checkbook and fill out her 1040, but going against the head of the Fed and the UST she is way over matched and, she looks like an idiot.
Her points about the constitution are baseless.
If Coulter is a lunatic, then what is AL Franken? And he might even win/steal an election?
What does that say about our state/state?
And again, why attack the messenger?
Simple call out her data on political donations as false. Or is it true?
And how about that Joe Klein, how’s that working for you? Had enough
realism over the last year?
well, she did a better job on her tax form than Geitner. )
You made that way too easy…..
And the head of the UST, he’s had people calling for his head for weeks.
“Indeed, reading the early comments on this thread reveal no understanding of where she is coming from…….or from whom’s intellect she is regurgitating.”
You honestly believe that’s what she was up to? That’s your interpretation?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Stop drinking the water in the hot-tub.
Here’s a thought .. do you think that an ideology can blind you to reality and potentially eliminate your own sensibilities?
Can a person become so overzealous they lose common sense?
Talk about making things easy….
“All I am saying is she is a bright, highly educated woman who is basically “plagarizing†her points”
Yeah, Jim, shes so bright and educated she had to “plagarize” some ones elses notes. Bright + Educated doesnt equal plagarism. Unprepared + Dim equals equals Plagarism. She isnt too good going off script and using her own material. She ends up eating her foot.
Great .. the Bachman isn’t really nutz thing is faltering so lets look for some other folks.
Straw burns fast ..
1. As Dora taught long ago Deac, when it is in ” ” marks, then it is to be taken with a grain of salt. English 101
And dont plagarize my Geitner joke……
2. I am not a lawyer and dont know the true answer, if there is one. I am simple explaining the basis of the OBVIOUS arguments.
Yet, romper room with Greg and Deac is over for tonite: feel free to argue with a real constitutional lawyer…..
whose book is opening at #1…..
and I dont even like him…………
You guys are lame! Sorry.
Levin Declares ‘No Constitutional Authority’ for Expanded Obama Administration Takeover Powers
By Jeff Poor | March 25, 2009 – 21:30
Has the federal government exceeded, or is it on the verge of exceeding its constitutional authority with the recent series of events connected to rescuing an ailing banking system?
Although Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., was ridiculed for raising that question in a congressional hearing on March 24, conservative talk show host, constitutional lawyer and legal commentator Mark Levin, told Fox News Channel’s “Your World with Neil Cavuto” on March 24 that government was indeed exceeding the constitution. According to Levin, there is nothing in the Constitution that would allow the Obama administration to expand the government’s ability to seize non-banking financial institutions as Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has proposed.
“It’s unbelievable,” Levin said. “There is no constitutional authority for this. I thought the American people like capitalism. I mean look, we luxuriated in this society as a result of the market system.”
Good night my friend, and sorry I find your insults = funny…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAH
When greg and deacon have their books open at #1, maybe cavuto will have them on to air their “views” on Michelle.
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GAWD, it’s too easy tonite.
And he pulls all his basis from Neil Cavuto’s show ..
Sure Jim .. you’re an intellectual marvel.
This is what happens when you drink the water in the hot-tub.
Not a single individual thought. Just a paraphrase from someone else ..
a higher grade chimp? No green bananas?
“She isnt too good going off script and using her own material.”
I don’t think any of that was “her own material.” Probably written by some 25 yr old intern.
“Can a person become so overzealous they lose common sense?”
That’s proven here daily!
“as Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has proposed.”
They havent seized anything you twit. They bought shares in AIG to save its ass. They werent acting like the FDIC sdoes when it seizes a bank. Try again. The word proposed means it hasnt happened yet. English 101. Bachmann’s statement were about actions that have already taken place, not proposals.
And the point you forgot or are ignoring is in Sept of 08 AIG ASKED, ASKED, ASKED FOR HELP from the Fed!!!!!!
When some one asks for help and you help them, thats not a seizure.
“AIG Asks Fed for $40 Billion in Aid
September 14, 2008
New York — The New York Times is reporting that American International Group (AIG) is seeking a $40 billion bridge l o an from the Federal Reserve, as it faces a potential downgrade from credit ratings agencies that could spell its doom, a person briefed on the matter said Sunday night.”
http://www.insurancenetworking.com/news/insurance_AIG_Fed_credit_ratings11181-1.html
Seized??? I dont think so. But guys like you Jim make Bachmanns election make more sense.
Greg 63 says:
March 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
And he pulls all his basis from Neil Cavuto’s show ..
Sure Jim .. you’re an intellectual marvel.
This is what happens when you drink the water in the hot-tub.
Oh stop!! stop!! the way too laserlike zingers from Greg. I am so “put in my place.” Yes, I should stop the bathwater, and please please give me some of what you are drinking or smoking…….. You do seem happily delusional. You never did answer: did you get your GED? or not….
Greg= the mighty blogger on the 10 person BQ
MB= elected congresswoman putting forth constitutional arguments in a national forum, and so popular she made appearances yesterday on: Jason Lewis, Hannity, Cavuto and probably others.
Greg, you need to upgrade your audience to more than 10 people )
Trust me Deacon, I am proud of local Reps like Bachmann and Peterson as they actually have a clue.
Let’s review a few stories on our fearless current REALISTS (as highlighted by Joe Klein 2006 ode):
“One of those allegedly asleep-at-the-switch board members was Chicago’s Rahm Emanuel—now chief of staff to President Barack Obama—who made at least $320,000 for a 14-month stint at Freddie Mac that required little effort.”
God! So lets all just shut the hell up. All these people, right or left or middle or center. Politics is about money its not about YOU or ME.
“Greg= the mighty blogger on the 10 person BQ”
Nah .. just able to spot another moron spewing garbage.
“MB= elected congresswoman putting forth constitutional arguments in a national forum, and so popular she made appearances yesterday on: Jason Lewis, Hannity, Cavuto and probably others”
Those are things to be proud of? Then again, you probably considered it an honor to be asked to join the compound.
Do you live on the swamp or just look at the pictuers?
“Greg, you need to upgrade your audience to more than 10 people ”
Already have?
“Let’s review a few stories on our fearless current REALISTS (as highlighted by Joe Klein 2006 ode):”
Yet another hot tub community ‘trick’ .. go back 3 years to establish your premise.
It’s 2009 you hack.
Alas, the filter wont allow them on but great stories linked today on drudge:
Rahm and his Freddie stint.
Madoff throwing money at the Senate Dems
who wont even give the money back.
So Deacon, do you understand how our current leaders came to power?
Enjoy your great 2009!
Read this..god almighty. This guy made $16 million as an investment banker. IN THREE YEARS.
And he wants to take some poor guys 500,000 dollar bounce
ww.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-rahm-emanuel-profit-26-mar26,0,5682373.story
poor Greg:
crabby
and lame insults
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA
get that GED and, maybe, you can get better insults?
“Alas, the filter wont allow them on but great stories linked today on drudge:”
Drudge is sure a legitimate source huh? Obviously your intellect and superior education profile has validated that for you.
Crabby? Nah .. but I can see your paranoia levels rising … That’s kinda fun!
Don’t jump and please stay away from matches.
Jesus Christ! Yeah I guess Emanuels going to be okay paying a little bit more in taxes.
“get that GED and, maybe, you can get better insults?”
Jim, this is a lame insult.
“I am proud of local Reps like Bachmann and Peterson”
Im sure you are. The rest of us are laughing at you. A collection of morons are going to elect morons. Its not suprising.
“and so popular she made appearances yesterday on: Jason Lewis, Hannity, Cavuto”
Hardly objective or reliable sources of news. These are sounding boards for partisan rhetoric. And getting on TV also means dick. The Octomom was on Larry King. Should I listen to hear when she preaches her version of parental responsibility?
What right does this Emanuel guy have to say to others “You can’t make that much” after he already got his “easy money”
16 million IN THREE YEARS. Thats not right. NOT RIGHT!
So .. anyone going to try and participate in that world-wide town hall today?
Hey Jim, how’s the ribeye been down at Ruth’s Chris? For the time being I can respect healthy dissent that and different viewpoint of Scalia…but you can’t be serious about Bachmann. Every day, I’m more and more convinced that she’s seriously mentally ill. Isn’t there a rational Republican that you can support who’s challenging her?
And by the way — “Kazakistan” is what Iran is naming their partition of Iraq (this is of course after Saddam Hussein is reanimated as a zombie and becomes a stooge of Akhmadinejad).
“So .. anyone going to try and participate in that world-wide town hall today?”
After hearing one of the questions this morning I think I’d rather get a colonoscopy. The question was:
When will you bring back all the jobs that were outsourced oversea’s?
Think he’ll have the seeds to tell her the truth and say, never.
16 million IN THREE YEARS. Thats not right. NOT RIGHT!
So now you’re a communist?
“And by the way — “Kazakistan†is what Iran is naming their partition of Iraq”
Seriously? Ive heard of Kazakhstan, but Kazakistan was news to me.
No Dan its not right for these types of people to run around telling people how much they should make after they already have theirs.
What the hell is wrong with you. I don’t care what side your on..thats Bull Sh^t.
You don’t find it troubling he made that much and AS AN INVESTMENT BANKER???????? And this guy is “running” the country.
CS .. we’re on the same page.
I tried logging on as D2 and asking the question:
“Why are you such a soci@list and will you come see me in my hot-tub”
It wouldn’t work.
And Emanuel or even Obama can scold someone about greed when they have gotten their “jackpot”??? And don’t kid yourself the connections and political positions help these people hit that “jackpot”
And we sit here with our @sses hanging out to get plowed into and fight like a bunch of children thinking all along these people really care about anything else but themselves.
Tiny, I think the distinguishing difference is the $$ didn’t come from a bailout of a bankrupt company.
“Tiny, I think the distinguishing difference is the $$ didn’t come from a bailout of a bankrupt company.”
I realize that. But these guys always seem to get “fast” money somehow.
“But these guys always seem to get “fast†money somehow.”
You mentioned Obama. Obama got rich writing and selling books. There isnt anything wrong with that is there?
Tiny, I think the distinguishing difference is the $$ didn’t come from a bailout of a bankrupt company.
Try not to confuse Tiny with the facts. Tiny don’t do nuance.
“There isnt anything wrong with that is there?”
Well I can’t do that can I. “Life of a IT Guy”. Sell about 5 copies.
“I tried logging on as D2…”
Has the Secret Service knocked on your door yet?
“Has the Secret Service knocked on your door yet? ”
No, but I’m assuming I’ll be getting some very strange mail in the next few weeks ..
Tiny ..
try “Knowing GO” instead.
“No, but I’m assuming I’ll be getting some very strange mail in the next few weeks ..”
Better make sure your taxes for the last 7 years are in good order.
“Well I can’t do that can I”
Dont be bitter. I cant write a song that would get airplay and Im not tall enough to dunk a basketball. I dont hold that against Springstein or Garnett for getting rich doing something I cant.
Seriously? Ive heard of Kazakhstan, but Kazakistan was news to me.
Dang it, where did I leave my irony tags! There is no Kazakistan, and Bachmann should have known…they have A LOT of oil…Even without the oil, there’s no excuse for not knowing.
There are two kinds of STANS – countries and regions. There’s only a handful of actual countries:
Pakistan
Afghanistan
Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan
Kazakstan
Kyrgyzstan
There’s no excuse for any member of Congress not to know these, because we have diplomatic relations wich each.
The other kinds of STANS are regions – usually self-governing – within a larger nation. For example, Dagestan and Tartarstan are autonomous regions in Russia. Waziristan and Baluchistan are subregions of Pakistan. I don’t expect our elected representatives to know these, unless they’re strategic.
“Better make sure your taxes for the last 7 years are in good order. ”
No kidding ..
the life of an extremist must suck.
DB, you wrote “Kazakhstan” — that’s an interesting spelling, because it’s the Russified name of Kazakstan.
The reason why is that Cossak and Kazak are spelled the same in Russian: KA3AK (KAZAK). So the Russkies needed to differentiate between the two — so Cossaks stayed KA3AK and the Kazak people become KA3AX (KAZAKH).
Sorry – If you wish to call me Cliff Claven that’s okay, it’s deserved.
“DB, you wrote “Kazakhstan†— that’s an interesting spelling, because it’s the Russified name of Kazakstan.”
I didnt know that. I looked it up on the internet and it was spelled with an H.
My point was that MB was butchering the pronunciation. She was pronouncing it Kah Zak I Stan. To my knowlede no such nation exists.
“Dont be bitter. I cant write a song that would get airplay and Im not tall enough to dunk a basketball. I dont hold that against Springstein or Garnett for getting rich doing something I cant.”
Garnetts not a Soci@list.
“I dont hold that against Springstein”
Thats one guy I’ve never liked. I don’t get it “commercial garbage”
Nebraska was a good record.
But I dont like Springstein that much either. I mentioned him because he writes and sings his own stuff and can fill a stadium.
Well I can’t do that can I.
Actually, I do see a way for you to do that. It starts out by winning a congressional seat. Move to the 6th District, I don’t think the current employee is very well qualified. Then you’re on your way!
Hey, did you guys hear at about 2:14 of this grainy audio tape that Bernanke says the “eponomy”? Eponomy! Eponomy? I’ve heard of “economy” but there’s no such thing as “eponomy”, shouldn’t the Fed Chairman know this? What a dumb loser!
Seriously, kiddies, grow up, of all the things to rant about, whether MB said Kazakstan or Kazakastan is really trivial and mindless.
Whats more trivial and mindless? Me whining about her mispronouncing Kazakhstan, or you whining about my whining about the mispronunciation?
Seriously, kiddies, grow up, of all the things to rant about, whether MB said Kazakstan or Kazakastan is really trivial and mindless.
People used to say things like that about Pakistan.
Back in 2000, Bush was asked if he knew who the president of Pakistan was. His response was “Do you?” — lots of people defended his saying that it wasn’t such a big deal because Pakistan wasn’t that big of a player on the world stage. It’s ironic that the guy he couldn’t name — Pervez Musharaff — ended up becoming such a well-known figure after 911.
More insanity from Darlin’ Michele (who’s starting to look a little worse for wear), cheered on by her Bachmannistan Boobs, 2D and 6DJ.
The insanity first. By questioning the constitutional power of Congress to establish the Federal Reserve system, Darlin’ Michele has placed herself on the furthest fringes of wingnut lunacy in the legal world. There is no serious constitutional question here, whatever Fox Propaganda News blathers.
The constitution gives Congress the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof. It also grants Congress power to regulate interstate commerce. These were the powers used by Congress in establishing the Federal Reserve System in 1914. There is no serious question concerning the constitutional basis for the Fed.
As for the Treasury, the constitution specifically mentions such an entity.
Now, whether the Fed or Treasury exceeded its powers under the various statutes governing their actions is another matter, although I am not aware that ANY of the recent extraordinary actions by Treasury and Fed are being challenged in court as beyond their legal authority. Nor is that what our 6th District loon is claiming.
So Darlin’ Michele is bonkers, as aways, and a puppet of the worst rightwing extremists in this country. It’s comforting to know that in this time of uncertainly, our most crazed wingnuts never change—they remain unhinged, taking every far right extremist position that can be imagined.
“Whats more trivial and mindless? Me whining about her mispronouncing Kazakhstan, or you whining about my whining about the mispronunciation?”
My post mocks and ridicules, your numerous posts whine, like a tennage girl.
“Back in 2000, Bush was asked if he knew who the president of Pakistan was. His response was “Do you?†— lots of people defended his saying that it wasn’t such a big deal because Pakistan wasn’t that big of a player on the world stage. It’s ironic that the guy he couldn’t name — Pervez Musharaff — ended up becoming such a well-known figure after 911.”
Well, that was almost relevant, nice contribution.
M0I, Im aware I might whine from time to time on this blog. I try and spread my whining around. You seem to focus on one subject. Why is that? And why rip off someones else moniker?
It will be interesting to see the reaction of the conservative loons to the new array of financial regulations proposed today by Obama and Geithner.
This is really going to be the High Noon of the deregulation battle, and the GOoP propaganda networks will be called into service 24/7 to lie and mislead the cretins of Team Conservative and the ill informed American people. (Not that plenty of Dem New York politicians won’t be working to block them as well.)
This will be a key moment in out history. We have almost been destroyed economically by financial deregulation–if ever a policy has failed, “conservative” financial deregulation has. Now, can our failed country, burdened as it is with a massive corporate and Conservative Noise Machine, actually reform its laws and practices in the face of complete failure and calamity?
In 1914, after years of monetary panics, we created the Federal Reserve System, which has functioned fairly well for tha past 90 years. With the Depression, we created a broad base of financial regulations which protected the American economy for decades until they were largely repealed in the late 1990s. This deregulation caused (in less than a decade) the greatest financial crisis since the Depression.
Can we reform ourselves any longer, or are we now a completely failed, degenerate democracy? That’s what we will see over the next year. We can guess where Darlin’ Michele and her crazed Bachmannistaners will be on the issue……
“M0I, Im aware I might whine from time to time on this blog. I try and spread my whining around. You seem to focus on one subject. Why is that? And why rip off someones else moniker?”
Geezus, more whiny comments, Why??? Why??? Why??? I was off when I said teenage girl, it’s like your the average 3-year old.
So why rip someone elses moniker? Why Why Why???!!!
“Pervez Musharaff”
How is that pronounced?
Per-vezz of per-vey
Do his friends call him Perv?
M0I, you are a douchenozzle of the worst sort – where are your relevant and timely posts? Nonexistent. I point out that it’s naive for you to dismiss knowledge of a country like Kazakstan — you question whether it’s relevant. That’s funny, but not surprising since you’ve failed miserably to distinquish yourself in anyway on this blog, other than your douchenozzle-esque comments.
marketplace of summer’s eve.
In 1914, after years of monetary panics, we created the Federal Reserve System, which has functioned fairly well for tha past 90 years. With the Depression, we created a broad base of financial regulations which protected the American economy for decades until they were largely repealed in the late 1990s.
[irony]
But Parth, don’t you get it? No one elects the Fed chair – he’s appointed. The Fed isn’t a part of the government. Too much regulation caused this mess. The only way out is to get rid of the rules that people weren’t following…And by the way, did you know that if you write a letter to the IRS saying taxes are unconstitutional, you don’t have to pay?
[/irony]
“douchenozzle”
“douchenozzle-esque”
“marketplace of summer’s eve”
Sarge, Sarge, Sarge.
Can we address your Vaginaphobia?
“So why rip someone elses moniker? Why Why Why???!!!”
Do the vending machines where you are have the 12 ounce cans of testosterone?
If so, buy 3 or 4 and shotgun ‘em.
“It’s comforting to know that in this time of uncertainly, our most crazed wingnuts never change”
Actually, I’m sure most Americans would be comforted if the wingnuts on both the right and the left would utter one short, simple sentence.
I’m in therapy now.
“The other kinds of STANS are regions”
Lets not forget Stan and Ollie.
And lets not forget the poopstans on the back of you shorts, sarge.
“Do the vending machines where you are have the 12 ounce cans of testosterone?”
Is this it??? Why Why Why cant you come up with something substantial???!!!
Can we address your Vaginaphobia?
http://www.phobialist.com/reverse.html
There is no specific phobia of the vagina. Maybe it’s covered under ichthyophobia.
However, there are FOUR separate phobias of the schwanstucker, so Kim Jong Il is onto something when he names his missles Dongs.
Never mind,
Female genitals- Kolpophobia.
Female genitalia- Eurotophobia.
You learn something new every day.
“You learn something new every day.”
Vomit,
Whats the name for a phobia of female genetalia cleaning solutions. I think thats what sarge has.
Maybe it Vinegarphobia.
Dranophobia?
“I’m in therapy now.”
Ya know I was going to seek therapy once. I have the uncanny knack of not giving a sh:t about what others think of me.
I’m glad I didn’t go through with it now that I know sarge is a psychiatrist. Now I can get it for free here.
And to think this whole time I thought Sarge was a Rocket Scientist. Imagine my releif.
“M0I, you are a douchenozzle of the worst sort – where are your relevant and timely posts? Nonexistent. I point out that it’s naive for you to dismiss knowledge of a country like Kazakstan — you question whether it’s relevant. That’s funny, but not surprising since you’ve failed miserably to distinquish yourself in anyway on this blog, other than your douchenozzle-esque comments.”
Oh, sarge, don’t be sour, it seems so unnecessary for you to get so worked up over things you don’t understand.
My original post, regarding mindlessness and triviality, was obviously way over your head but this shouldn’t be a newsflash to anyone, any concepts beyond, “Hope†or “Change†tend to give you fits.
My post was pointing out that, of all things to be concerned over in DC, MB possibly mispronouncing Kazakstan, really is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
So, next time, before breathlessly hammering out a post on your drool covered keyboard, pause and ask someone smart for assistance.
Well, once again its been fun but I must flee this stinking hole for the real world.
Adios Sombreros!
“was obviously way over your head but this shouldn’t be a newsflash to anyone, any concepts beyond, “Hope†or “Change†tend to give you fits.”
SLAMMMMMMMMM!!
“before breathlessly hammering out a post on your drool covered keyboard, pause and ask someone smart for assistance.”
SHAZAM SLAMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!
…see — when you don’t have a response, you say “SHAZAM!” — it’s really weak.
I’m really amazed that you’re not a teenager GO latency.
And lets not forget the poopstans on the back of you shorts, sarge.
I actually have a Brazillian wax, so no more skid marks for me, thank you very much.
My post was pointing out that, of all things to be concerned over in DC, MB possibly mispronouncing Kazakstan, really is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
See, now I can’t tell if you’re intentionally pretending not to understand or if you’re really that stupid.
“Is this it??? Why Why Why cant you come up with something substantial???!!!”
I’m changing my answer again, based on your whining and use of puncuation marks, you come off as a teenage girl.
“My post was pointing out that, of all things to be concerned over in DC, MB possibly mispronouncing Kazakstan, really is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.”
And here you are wailing away on your keyboard and what have accomplished? Have you done something significant? So why rip off someone elses moniker?
“My post was pointing out that, of all things to be concerned over in DC, MB possibly mispronouncing Kazakstan, really is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.”
And here you are wailing away on your keyboard and what have accomplished? Have you done something significant? So why rip off someone elses moniker?
“See, now I can’t tell if you’re intentionally pretending not to understand or if you’re really that stupid.”
You’re unsure? Wow, hold onto your hats folks.
“I’m changing my answer again, based on your whining and use of puncuation marks, you come off as a teenage girl.”
Man if Im not careful I might get in over my head with you M0I and get my feelings hurt. Your bitting wit has got me ont he ropes here. I havent heard of a beating like this since Dempsey knocked Firpo down 12 times in the first round.
“And here you are wailing away on your keyboard and what have accomplished? Have you done something significant? So why rip off someone elses moniker?”
What, are you the moniker police?
Go get yer shine kit beeyatch.
The more important question is what is going on in Darlin’ Michele’s “mind” that she includes Kazakstan is her bizarre “question” about an international currency?
It’s not exactly one of the world’s great economies or financial centers, after all. I guess Kazakstan has got muslims (i.e. demonic terrorists), so that’s why it makes its appearance in her rant.
Nor does the nutter have the slightest understanding of China’s recent statement about the dollar as a reserve currency. She thinks there’s some mad global UN plot to “convert” the US to a new world currency. Deranged.
Seriously, I think there’s little doubt she’s the most ignorant, xenophobic and boneheaded member of Congress–and that’s saying something!
“The more important question is what is going on in Darlin’ Michele’s “mind†that she includes Kazakstan is her bizarre “question†about an international currency?”
http://www.amazon.com/Middle-Cyclone-Neko-Case/dp/B001MWGZDG/ref=pd_ts_m_10?ie=UTF8&s=music
Listen to the sample of “Marais La Nuit”
“Man if Im not careful I might get in over my head with you M0I and get my feelings hurt. Your bitting wit has got me ont he ropes here. I havent heard of a beating like this since Dempsey knocked Firpo down 12 times in the first round.”
I’m good-looking and I’m rich and I have a rapist’s wit.
I’ve seen Neko Case sing a couple times.
She’s hot.
“I’m good-looking and I’m rich and I have a rapist’s wit.”
All relative.
“All relative.”
You missed it.
“I’ve seen Neko Case sing a couple times.
She’s hot.”
I saw her at First Ave in March 2006, and I swear I could feel a shock wave
when her voice would hit certain notes.
I’m seeing her again in New York next month.
There’s a couple of live recordings on the NPR All Songs Considered site that are downloadable.
“You missed it.”
What the lyrics? And your point is?
“What the lyrics? And your point is?”
Lyrics?
“Lyrics?”
Dont mind if I do.
Alanis Morissette
“You are a rock star
You are a rock legend to the max
You can really knock it out
You can really wupp a horse’s ass
Alanis Morissette
Alanis Morissette
Alanis Morissette
Alanis Morissette
You are a rocking maniac
You are a singing hyena
You are a rock star in Jesus’ name
You can really rock Saddam Hussein’s ass
Alanis Morissette
Alanis Morissette
Alanis Morissette
Alanis Morissette
You are my sweet woman to the end
You are my honey lover to the max
You are my sweetheart for years to come
You are so lovable to me in the long run
Alanis Morissette
Alanis Morissette
Alanis Morissette
Alanis Morissette
Taco Bell, make a run for the border”
-Wesley Willis
We’re talking about two different things here, M and D.
M_0_I is saying you miseed his silly pun and the rest of us are taling about Neko Case.
Were you making a play on the old “rapier wit” cliche?
Anyway,
I know how M_0_I can prove he’s the same M_o_I we knew on think Again.
After all maybe he’s not the shadow blogger as Deacon asserts. Maybe he just had to recreate his handle on this blog and the o is right next to the 0 on the keyboard.
Comment on Bachmann’s fixating on the notion of the Constitutionality of recent actions by the Fed.
Has the fed done anything unconstitutional? Quote us chapter and verse.
“Were you making a play on the old “rapier wit†cliche?”
Dont know that one.
I’ve seen Wesley Willis play too.
He’s nowhere near as hot or as good a singer as Neko Case.
But worth checking out in his own special way.
“I’m good-looking and I’m rich and I have a rapist’s wit”
-Lloyd Christmas
Yeah. I felt bad having a good time at the show I went to afterwards. Something about it just felt wrong laughing and chearing.
Daniel Johnston though is another story. That guy is a musical savant.
Speaking of quirky shows I’ve seen at the 7th St Entry… One time I saw a duet show between former Zappa drummer Jimmy Karl Black and this avante garde guitarist name Eugene Chabourne. mostly it was really simple rock beats accomanying really strange sounds from modified guitars. A banjo was brought out at some point too. But at one point — tiny will appreciate this — Mr. Black stopped everything and said, “ladies and gentleman, I’m Jimmy Karl Black, and I’m the Indian in the band.” All the Zappa fans in the crowd went nuts.
“I know how M_0_I can prove he’s the same M_o_I we knew on think Again.
After all maybe he’s not the shadow blogger as Deacon asserts. Maybe he just had to recreate his handle on this blog and the o is right next to the 0 on the keyboard.”
Finally some logic and, no, I’m not the same, I am unable to pontificate on the ins and outs of the constitution.
The point I made earlier was simply a voice of reason amongst the screeching and shrieking.
Hmmm. Im not too familiar with Neko Case so I thought those were some lyrics of hers.
Hit me in my face
Hit me with your fist
Clobber me with a stick
Beat the hell out of me as I mess up
Beat my ass
Beat my ass
Beat my ass
Beat my ass
Clock me in the head
Throw me against the wall and bruise me up
Give me a black eye
Thrash the hell out of me
Beat my ass
Beat my ass
Beat my ass
Beat my ass
Take me to an alleyway
Give me a life-threatening hellride
Knock my freaking head off
Tear me limb from limb
Beat my ass
Beat my ass
Beat my ass
Beat my ass
White Castle, it’s what you crave
“Hmmm. Im not too familiar with Neko Case ”
I wish I were more familiar with Neko Case. Okay. Don’t tell the wife I said that. Her phrasing is kind of the same on every song so I can’t listen to her all day but her voice is beautiful. The rest of her ain’t so bad either.
She is getting a lot of play on the Current right now. New album out.
In addition to her solo work she was in the New P*rn*graphers. And I think she did some tracks on Calexico records if I remember correctly.
Whoever you are, m zero i, why would you impersonate another blogger or at the very least lift their handle? That’s weird.
Let’s ride the city bus
Let’s ride it clean on a roadblock
Grab the rapid transit subway
Grab the transit bus down the line
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
The 11 Lincoln bus approached Ashland and Belmont
The city bus was ready to move
The passengers boarded the city bus
When the stoplight turned green, the 11 Lincoln bus took off
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
The 11 Lincoln bus came to my stop
As I got off the bus, I told the male bus driver to shove a broomstick up his ass
He got so tired of my disharmonious bullsh:t
He threatened to clock a transfer puncher upside my head
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
CompUSA, it’s the computer superstore
Let’s ride the city bus
Let’s ride it clean on a roadblock
Grab the rapid transit subway
Grab the transit bus down the line
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
The 11 Lincoln bus approached Ashland and Belmont
The city bus was ready to move
The passengers boarded the city bus
When the stoplight turned green, the 11 Lincoln bus took off
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
The 11 Lincoln bus came to my stop
As I got off the bus, I told the male bus driver to shove a broomstick up his @ss
He got so tired of my disharmonious bullsh:t
He threatened to clock a transfer puncher upside my head
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
Get on the city bus
CompUSA, it’s the computer superstore
“I’m Jimmy Karl Black, and I’m the Indian in the band”
Group…I’m the Indian of Group.
Bow tie daddy dontcha blow your top
Everything’s under control
Bow tie daddy dontcha blow your top
‘Cause you think you’re gettin’ too old
Don’t try to do no thinkin’
Just go on with your drinkin’
Just have your fun, you old son of a gun
Then drive home in your Lincoln
The Mothers Of Invention
Obama’s budget shows gross national debt rising to $17.1 trillion in 2013 and $23.1 trillion in 2019. The 2019 number is more than 100 percent of the estimated gross domestic product!
The Chinese are already threatening to stop financing our debt. Interest rates will soar and the economy will be in ruins if this occurs.
Already, the Federal Reserve is buying U.S. treasury bills to keep interest rates down. What are they going to do when the Chinese refuse to buy the bills?
Libs, all together now: “We need more regulation. The US economic system needs to be regulated.”
Ha. Beat y’all to it.
Where’d you get your numbers, Cash n Crappy, they look phony to me, like most of what you post.
And if you’re supposedly concerned about continuing foreign investment in the American economy, then why the opposition to increased financial regulation to prevent future meltdowns like the ongoing conservative deregulation meltdown?
Guess you don’t know that foreign investors are a mite peeved with our failure to perform the most basic regulation of our financial markets and “products”, China chief amongst them. Increased regulation will increase (damaged) investor confidence.
And increased regulation of private US financial firms and securities won’t have much to do with the attractiveness of US gub’mint debt in any event.
But then, you’re stuffed too full of conservative horsesh*t to even be able to breath. “Thinking” is out of the question.
Sorry Sarge:
You raised some good questions, and I tried to respond both on MB and on my culinary adventures last week in Vegas.
The filter ate my efforts, so it’s not that I am ignoring you, but this filter is quite challenging.
Thanks for responding this am, however.
ratings of recent meals, sans detail:
***** Michael Mina’s Stripsteak
***** Sinatra at Encore
**** N9NE at Palms
***1/2 SW Steakhouse at Wynn
And yes, I do like MB. And Colin.
I hate Franken and dislike Norm, but I realize some actually like them. To each their own.
Good night, hello NCAA
“Guess you don’t know that foreign investors are a mite peeved with our failure to perform the most basic regulation of our financial markets and “productsâ€, China chief amongst them. Increased regulation will increase (damaged) investor confidence.”
I believe they are much more concerned about our spending than our regulation.
“And increased regulation of private US financial firms and securities won’t have much to do with the attractiveness of US gub’mint debt in any event.”
Correct. So what’s your point? We should increase regulation because nobody will care?
“Where’d you get your numbers, Cash n Crappy, they look phony to me, like most of what you post.”
Most likely from some BS partisan source using absolute worse case sky is falling numbers. The current natl debt is $11 trillion and the CBO projects the Obama budget will have defecits totaling $9.3 trillion until 2019. So, thats about $20.3 trillion debt by 2019. Thats $3 trillion less than CNC’s numbers but still scary as hell.
for all you BQ “oldies”, Eric Black’s take on Bachmann’s latest op-ed.
“for all you BQ “oldiesâ€,”
Alright another “High School Drop out” side shot type comment.
“For all you BQ oldies Elitist closet bigoted self proclaimed pretentious condescending Communist Jack@sses”
“We should increase regulation because no one will care?”
My comments were directed to the Crapper’s illogical point, CS. He lamented the debt’s effect on Treasuries and illogically concluded that meant no new regulation of the financial markets should be attempted. It was clear that was what I was responding to, try to keep up.
As for the size of the debt, foreign investors kept snapping up Treasuries without end while Bushco increased the debt $5 trillion over 8 years—and those were actual increases, not projected ones. Did YOU care much about the “conservative” debt run-up over the past 8 years? My guess is you’re a newly minted deficit hawk, coinciding with the election of a Dem president.
The US now has a structural deficit caused by endless tax cutting by “conservatives”, which is the Rushbo Repub Party’s only policy. The US also is in the midst of a Great Recession, in which gub’mint is the spender of last resort, according to Keynesian macroeconomic theory. We thus have no alternative but substantial deficits as a national policy for several years.
Recessions are predictible events, that’s why the Repubs’ insane debt run-up during Bush’s “expansion” was so damaging—it was certain that fiscal policy (gub’mint spending) would be needed at some point in the future and Bushco’s massive Deficits-For-Nothing would hamper that future policy and increase its risk. That’s now where we find ourselves.
As for the future, tax rates will have to rise, especially on the mega-rich who profited so handsomely under the Bushco False Gold Age. All income over a million or two should be taxed at very high rates, say, 75%. And worthless wasteful national debt-holes like our bloated military will have to be cut, and cut massively.
If the US wants to continue being the world’s reserve currency, then the lessons of the fall of the British Pound as a global reserve currency must be learned. Britain lost its world economic position as a result of crazily trying to hold onto its far-flung empire, spending amounts on “defense” far beyond what it could actually afford.
This is exactly what we are doing now. Failing to invest in our domestic economy and peacetime needs, while we piss 50% of our federal budget down the militarist rathole, year after year after year. This can’t continue forever, and at some point someone will have to start pointing it out to the militarist American public.
Because history shows time and time again that the treasury bonds of an overstretched military empire eventually become undesirable as investments.
Did I miss anything?
“For all you BQ oldies Elitist closet bigoted self proclaimed pretentious condescending Communist Jack@ssesâ€
…like Tiny?
Thanks for the link, Dora, a great piece by Eric, essentially calling Crazed Michele an irresponsible liar, which is exactly what she is. Based on Eric’s analysis, Bachmann’s op-ed is an exercise in deceit.
Unfortunately, Bachmann’s falsehoods will be seen by a hundred times more citizens that Black’s truth. This is why the “marketplace of ideas” doesn’t work, and why corporate propaganda succeeds.
Michele Bachmann is the loathsome face of the Rump conservative party, a party that follows the Big Lie principles of Joseph Goebbels.
And the Pioneer Press gives her a never ending platform for her falsehoods, without ever fact-checking a single one of her crazed op-eds. Your Lib’rul media!
“The US also is in the midst of a Great Recession, in which gub’mint is the spender of last resort, according to Keynesian macroeconomic theory. We thus have no alternative but substantial deficits as a national policy for several years.”
Because Keynes said so its gospel and there are NO alternatives. Give me a break. Just look at Europes disagreement over stimulus spending if you think its so obvious there are no alternatives.
“The US now has a structural deficit caused by endless tax cutting by “conservatives—
Sure, right. Like always only one side of the equation. You know well that programs like medicare and soc. sec. and the military add to the defecit. Its not just taxes.
“All income over a million or two should be taxed at very high rates, say, 75%.”
You’re crazy. This is simply crazy talk.
” And worthless wasteful national debt-holes like our bloated military will have to be cut, and cut massively”
I agree.
“Because history shows time and time again that the treasury bonds of an overstretched military empire eventually become undesirable as investments.”
Obviously. So why would you support so strongly issuing debt at this rate if you know its only hastening the inevitable? We are debassing our currency in the long run to ease the pain in the short term. Why? So we can deny we are a consumer culture and we can get our speending back to where it was? We need a fundemental shift of how we do business in the US and it needs to start by moving away from consumerism.
***** Michael Mina’s Stripsteak
***** Sinatra at Encore
**** N9NE at Palms
***1/2 SW Steakhouse at Wynn
Thanks Jim, but I need something to compare it to. I know that Western US steaks tend to be far superior to anything we get out here.
I’ve been to Bob’s Chop House in San Francisco – by far the best filet I’ve ever had in my life. I’ve also been to Ruth’s Chris a few times – how do these LV places compare?
“This is why the “marketplace of ideas†doesn’t work”
So what would you suggest we do? Govt controlled media?
“Michele Bachmann fabricates middle-class tax hikes”
Not much different than the ObamaCo fabricated middle class tax cuts.
“a party that follows the Big Lie principles of Joseph Goebbels.”
You may not like the GOP but they are NOT Nazis. Try and remain calm.
“Where’d you get your numbers, Cash n Crappy, they look phony to me, like most of what you post.â€
“Most likely from some BS partisan source using absolute worse case sky is falling numbers.”
Carbon Al Gore? Are we talking Globull Warming?
“crazy talk”
The top marginal rate was over 75% from 1936-1969. In most of those years, it was 90%.
Then it went to 70% until the Reagan Revolution and the ongoing “conservative” destruction of our fiscal position.
I guess we were “crazy” from 1936-1980.
And worthless wasteful national debt-holes like our bloated military will have to be cut, and cut massively.
I disagree – even if you think cutting the military is a good thing, the money does stay in our economy. We shouldn’t cut ANY spending until the economy gets rolling again.
“The US also is in the midst of a Great Recession”
I think these people are Weenies. They haven’t even lived through the simplest of time (oh unless you want to call when they where in college and ran out of beer money)so how the hell do they know.
Plus I don’t see it. I still think its not as bad as 80-83.
Plus drive around this weekend. Go to the malls…
Exaggeration is the “Mark of Our Times”. We just think we’re sooooooo special.
GO latency, although I do think you’re intellectually challenged, you’re still a far cry from the lobotomized CNC.
If you’re looking to increase your intellectual credibility, siding with CNC is probably not the best route.
“Because history shows time and time again that the treasury bonds of an overstretched military empire eventually become undesirable as investments.”
We should also cut back on all third world economic assistance and humanitarian aid. this would save lots of funds that could be redirected towards bike paths, carbon credits, mass transit, gang tattoo removal and marsh mouse rehab.
“GO latency, although I do think you’re intellectually challenged, you’re still a far cry from the lobotomized CNC.”
Note to self – sarge does likes me.
“I guess we were “crazy†from 1936-1980.”
Step into this decade.
“If you’re looking to increase your intellectual credibility, siding with CNC is probably not the best route.”
40 dollars a month is not a tax cut. It’s a circus side show. Falls into the same category as the COBRA bill. Feel good legislation.
“Note to self – sarge does likes me.”
BlogHomos?
“Alright another “High School Drop out†side shot type comment”
What an @ss you are tiny. Eric Black used to be the BQ blogmeister which is why the BQ “oldies” would likely be more interested in his take.
“start moving away from consumerism”
This is very likely to occur simply because the corrupt era of profligate issuance of personal credit by an irresponsible banking sector is ending, and because so many people have been enmeshed in a personal debt trap that a new era of frugality is dawning.
Debt will no longer be so “accepted” and viewed uncritically by people. Consumerism was funded and trumpeted by the “finance” sector, don’t forget.
That won’t change the structural deficit, however. Tax rates will have to rise (especially on the wealthy), military spending massively cut and benefits of entitlement programs re-examined.
In a nation of crazed militarist tax cutters and middle-class welfare lovers, this will be very difficult.
“BlogHomos?”
Tiny needs a timeout on sarge’s couch.
Actually GO, we don’t spend very much on third world aid at all. It’s a pittance.
And are you counting Israel as a third world country? They’re our biggest foreign aid dump, I think.
But I do like your spending priorities—those are all superior to the military rathole!
SgtP, I’m speaking about the solution as the Great Recession abates. Military spending is also one of the least productive forms of fiscal spending, very poor multiplier effect, even with all the short term “jobs” it funds.
“Eric Black used to be the BQ blogmeister which is why the BQ “oldies†would likely be more interested in his take.”
Eric, How’s your brother jack doing. Give him my regards. Loved em in “tropic thunder”. (in a non-manlove way)
“I disagree – even if you think cutting the military is a good thing, the money does stay in our economy.”
Except for those pallets of cash we shipped to Iraq.
“And are you counting Israel as a third world country? They’re our biggest foreign aid dump, I think.”
Yep. And isn’t Egypt the next biggest recipiant of US aid? Then theres all that money Bushco dumped into africa for Aids eradication.
“FARGO, N.D. – The Red River rose to a daunting 112-year high early Friday and breached one of the dikes fortifying the city, but the mayor pledged to “go down swinging” as he called for more evacuations and additional National Guard troops to prevent a devastating flood.
The river swelled to 40.32 feet — more than 22 feet above flood stage and inches more than the previous high water mark of 40.1 feet set in 1897.”
Now I heard a gentlman say yesterday that this flooding is due to the accelerated pace of global warming. Now how can that be when the previous record was set in 1897?
Crap. I meant to say “globull” warming. Crap.
“Consumerism was funded and trumpeted by the “finance†sector, don’t forget.”
Bull sh:t. The finance center played on the American value of “keeping up with the Joneses”. Consumerism in america is nothing new.
“Tax rates will have to rise (especially on the wealthy),”
On everyone, which is why Obama’s promise of a middle class tax cut is a lie. The middle class is going to get a tax hike. Its simply not doable other wise.
I have to wonder some times where you are coming from as an individual Parthian. Whats your story? What do you do, where are you from? You send all the blame in one focussed direction and Im curious why you only see one angle.
“All income over a million or two should be taxed at very high rates, say, 75%.â€
You’re crazy. This is simply crazy talk.
As was pointed out above, the periods of our best growth, and when the earning power of the middle class was at it’s peak, was when taxes on the top incomes were this high or higher.
Not that there’s a snowball’s chance in hell this could be done today, but I would like to see a couple extra top marginal levels created. 50% on incomes over $1 million, 65% on incomes over $20 million. Call it a return to the good old days.
“You send all the blame in one focussed direction and Im curious why you only see one angle.”
Its called tunnel vision.
(must resist) Or from a gerbil perspective.
(sorry, could help it)
“Not that there’s a snowball’s chance in hell this could be done today”
Like I said, step into THIS decade. Those tax rates are gone and arent coming back. At least not in one shot. Incremental changes over decades perhaps but not in one Administration or congressional cycle.
“Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes†and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.”
Dan, if we raised the marginal tax rates to something close to 75%, do you think we’d see an increasing number of businesses and entrepeneurs moving operations overseas for preferential tax treatment?
“Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes†and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.â€
It’s not my fault they didn’t get into the cocaine importation biz while the market was strong.
“white people with blue eyesâ€
Well then lets blame Sweeden. De Silva? Yeah, thats a Black and or Indigenous surname.
I wonder what the Indigenous people of Brazil had to say when the De Silva clan got off their portugese Slave ships?
×œ×”×§×™× he couldn’t say people with “Curly Hair and big noses” so he went with the blue eyes deal.
You’re in the clear this time buddy. Have a big old kosher dill pickle for lunch.
Clinton will come out and agree on this one too?
“Until a few months ago, as financial and economic turmoil gripped the industrialised world, Latin America was suffused with optimism that it would escape the worst. “People ask me about the crisis and I answer, ‘go ask Bush’,†Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva said of his US counterpart in early September. “It is his crisis, not mine.â€
It is Mr Lula da Silva’s now. Brazil’s industrial production sank 6.2 per cent in the year to November, according to figures announced this week – the sharpest decline in output since December 2001.”
What an idiot.
“Have a big old kosher dill pickle for lunch.”
Vhat? you vant I should have all that sodium?
“Now I heard a gentlman say yesterday that this flooding is due to the accelerated pace of global warming.”
I wouldn’t necessarily agree with that. But the big floods are getting more frequent and I think the main human environmental f-up that’s contributing to it involves all the systems in place upstream of the flood plain designed to evacuate water quickly. Big parking lots at Walmart with storm drains, stand pipes and drain tiles in farmer’s fields, that sort of thing. Add to that all the communities upstream that have built dikes and levies (earthen berms that is, not lesbians and taxes) to keep the flooding out of their own communities means a greater volume of water pours down the river all at once come springtime and the crest is higher in that narrowly-defined anthropogenic trough. There probably must have been WAY more snow back in 1897 when the previous record was set. It doesn’t take as much water to make a flood now. The US govt should bust eminent domain and buy out the residents of the Red River Valley and turn it back into the big wetland it used to be. Bet it would be some kickass duck hunting there. Heck after 30-40 years I bet they could bring back whooping crane season. And we wouldn’t have to keep funding disaster relief again and again.
“step into this decade”
Like many young people, Deacon was simply completely unaware that the US had extremely high marginal tax rates on high income earners for decades and decades.
This is because the corporate media behemoths that were allowed to be created in the past decade or so refuse to inform citizens of our progressive past, and the successful policies our government ran before the Reagan Revolution.
So people remain ignorant, and of course have no personal incentive or interest to learn anything about our history on their own—corporate power relies on such ignorance. Party on!
Deacon thinks that we might as well be talking about returning to the lost world of the antebellum South when we talk about returning to the tax rates of, oh, 25 years ago. It’s simply dismissed as “crazy”.
This is the indoctrinating power of the corporate/right-leaning media to pervert the views of even highly educated citizens. To say nothing of the Conservative Noise Machine.
We could easily pass an orderly schedule of increasing marginal rates on the wealthiest Americans. There would be nothing unfair about a 75% rate on incomes of over $2 million, and we could have it in effect quite quickly.
It would immediately halt one of the main reasons for the gross irresponsibility of our banking and finance sector, which was the absurd distortion of incentives that occurred when CEOs and top execs could pocket tens of millions in a single year, and make enough to retire with hundreds of millions in a few years. This divorced them from any concern for the long term health of “their” company.
High tax rates for excessive income would stop this perverse incentive in its tracks.
I see that Crazy Michele has now (with her buddy Sean Hannity) called for an “orderly revolution” to halt “Obama’s tyranny” and “Marxism”. She has said that she considers herself a foreign correspondent, reporting “from enemy lines” as a member of Congress.
I’ll have to look into whether Congress can censure her for for such intemperate and incendiary language, calling other members of Congress a foreign “enemy” and calling for an insurrection against the elected government.
But there’s nothing that Congress can do about her being actually crazy. That’s the fault of the idiot Bachmannistaners who vote for her.
And people denied that our crazed conservative friends weren’t radicals. Bushco’s massive presidential lawbreaking and lying us into a foreign invasion were patriotic, but small tax increases on the wealthy and proposals to enact a formal process to do what was actually done with AIG raise Repub calls for “revolution”.
As Dan says, only in Bizzaro World.
Note to self – sarge does likes me.
Acutally it’s that I hate you less than CNC.
“Like many young people, Deacon was simply completely unaware that the US had extremely high marginal tax rates on high income earners for decades and decades.”
Dont be the fvcking moron you are. I know perfectly well what the rates were. You think this is the first time this issue ahs come up?
If you think doubling the highest marginal rate is politically possible, youre not living in this decade. Please join us wont you?
Who are you Parthian? Whats thew life experience you have that makes you such a complete cock sucker?
and the successful policies our government ran before the Reagan Revolution.
Parth, I’d also like to point out that Reagan wasn’t nearly as conservative as people make him out to be. In fact, in today’s GOP, he’d be considered a moderate.
Richard Nixon would be kicked out for being too liberal.
I can only assume, you understand how impossible politically doing what you suggest is. That means you must be in favor of some kind of facist state that wouldnt need to worry about politics and public compromise and could unilaterally make decisions like this. Oh and the latest BS statement that the marketplace of ideas doesnt work. Tell me genious what you suggest if you dont think it works? Who gets to decide what is worthy of the publics attention? Who control the discourse then? So what corporations in charge of the marketplace of ideas got together and decided to throught the GOP out of power? Parthian you’re nothing but a partisan conspiracy theorist.
“We could easily pass an orderly schedule of increasing marginal rates on the wealthiest Americans”
Wow, isnt that what I said Mr. Dumbass? But define quickly. Call it a decade or more.
Dont be the fvcking moron you are. I know perfectly well what the rates were. You think this is the first time this issue ahs come up?
If you think doubling the highest marginal rate is politically possible, youre not living in this decade. Please join us wont you?
Who are you Parthian? Whats thew life experience you have that makes you such a complete cock sucker?
DB, you could probably counter some of his arguments, but you gotta chill the fcuk out, bro. Don’t take it so personally – that was mild compared to some of his other rants.
“I’ll have to look into whether Congress can censure her for for such intemperate and incendiary language, calling other members of Congress a foreign “enemy†and calling for an insurrection against the elected government.”
Dont the citizens have a right to speak out about what they consider tyranny? Is she any worse than those that think the GOP were Nazis?
“DB, you could probably counter some of his arguments, but you gotta chill the fcuk out, bro.”
Cant do it Bro. Im on a major major coffee (about 8 cups) high right now and Im about 3 hours from the weekend. Im flying by the seat of my pants right now.
“I see that Crazy Michele has now (with her buddy Sean Hannity) called for an “orderly revolution†to halt “Obama’s tyranny†and “Marxismâ€.”
Sounds so so familar to me of the ultra crazy progressive wing of american politics who wanted a revolution against Bush’s Tyranny and Facism.
Dan, if we raised the marginal tax rates to something close to 75%, do you think we’d see an increasing number of businesses and entrepeneurs moving operations overseas for preferential tax treatment?
No. If that was the case why did the US have the largest concentration of millionaires when the tax rates were 75-90%? At those income levels people will continue to live and work where they want regardless of the top marginal tax rates. “Going Galt” is a myth.
Is she any worse than those that think the GOP were Nazis?
Were those people in congress?
Boy, deacon, you really do react like a little child when someone declares you to be ignorant of something. Try to rein in your juvenile anger and take your own advice about remaining calm, you pinhead.
Your old nemesis Marketplace may be onto something about you.
As to your 12:06 post it is asinine and delusional assumptions like that which likely make you a “successful” banker…..
This is the indoctrinating power of the corporate/right-leaning media to pervert the views of even highly educated citizens. To say nothing of the Conservative Noise Machine
Just as D2′s posts reek of the Michael Savage show, this reeks of Media Matters.
Both outlets are as far to the edge of the wingnut scale as you can get without falling over the edge.
I’m glad I can say this here, because I tried to say the same thing, in a more subtle tone, on Media Matters, and had my posts removed, then received notification that all of my posts would be subject to moderator approval before being posted (reason being, because I “hadn’t posted enough”, in spite of posting there on and off for two years).
Is that the type of critical, open minded journalism you favor?
“No. If that was the case why did the US have the largest concentration of millionaires when the tax rates were 75-90%?”
Are you sure? That was decades ago before globalization really got started and technology started leveling the playing field. Im not saying it would, Im saying its possible. Things are different today than they were and I think some of the service industries might leave if the could save 50% of their income in taxes. People would pull capital out of the US financial system Im pretty sure of that if income tax was raised that high. Whats the point of keeping your capital in a US bank system that charges you 75% on your income over $1 million if you could easily move the deposits to dollar demoniated accounts In Europe or Asia? You and I both know there are always unintended consequences to these actions and capital flight Im sure would be one of them.
“Sounds so so familar to me of the ultra crazy progressive wing of american politics who wanted a revolution against Bush’s Tyranny and Facism.”
Name one US Representative or Senator that was calling for a “revolution” against Bush.
“As to your 12:06 post it is asinine and delusional assumptions like that which likely make you a “successful†banker…..”
Then clarify your position instead of speaking in stupid generalities. Help me fill in the gaps of your logic so I dont have to guess.
When will it be politcally palatable enough for the congress and admin to get together and raise taxes to 75% on high incomes? The DEMs would lose power in short order. So how are you going to get this done AND stay in power?
And if you dont want me to assume what you think answer my direct questions specifically the ones possed to you about the marketplace of ideas. Who gets to control it in order to make it better?
And excuse my languauge thats the coffee speaking.
Oh don’t ask for relevant examples, Dora—Coffeeboy is “flyin’ by the seat of his pants”, which I guess excuses idiocy.
“My guess is you’re a newly minted deficit hawk, coinciding with the election of a Dem president.”
It would depend on your definition of “newly” but it did coincide with the election of a Dem president.
Not this one, or the one before him. The one before that.
“Name one US Representative or Senator that was calling for a “revolution†against Bush.”
First did I make that claim? And second I can remember a few times when a sen or a rep comapred Bush’s actions to those of Nazis or made indirect comparisons. Ellison and the Reichstag comment for one and I remember Sen. Byrd making similar comments.
And lets be serious, google bush and fascist or fascism and see the number of progressive links that come up.
Parth,
I for one think the idea of a 90% tax on the rich is kooky stupid.
What incentive to people have to innovate, risk it all starting a business etc if the potential for reward isn’t great?
on the other hand I think I could meet you halfway with the notion of excessive short-term excecutive compensation removing all incentive for CEO’s to act in the long-term interests of their employers.
I would support a million-dollar salary cap on CEO’s in conjunction with say, a 10-year vesting schedule on unlimited stock options. So they could reap huge rewards if what they helped build prospers in the long haul. Wanna make more than that? Don’t be an employee. Start the next Apple or something.
As far as tax rates, I think every single citizen should pay the same percentage of their income as tax, no matter what their income or services drawn from the public trough may be. no loopholes, no exemptions. You’re on welfare, fine you still pay taxes. You make a hundred million dollars and employ 500 people, great for you. Pay the same rate your employees pay. You have a far higher stake in the maintenance of domestic tranquility. 25% seems like a nice round number to me.
Deacon, I don’t answer questions from those who don’t really want answers. I made a brief statement about the marketplace of ideas, perhaps someday I’ll write more about what it means to say it doesn’t work—but none of your assumptions about the statement are logical or necessary.
As to my personal background, I never speak about it, I am merely an anonymous internet person, whose ideas you will have to assess in a pure intellectual vacuum.
Have a good weekend, I shouldn’t have baited you further.
“Deacon, I don’t answer questions from those who don’t really want answers.”
I sincerely would like an answer. You make a statement that the marketplace of ideas doesn’t work Id like to know how you’d fix that presumably with some sort of legislation no doubt.
Name one US Representative or Senator that was calling for a “revolution†against Bush.â€
First did I make that claim?”
Then what was your point? Bachmann calling for a “revolution” is without comparison.
Ellison’s comment was not about Bush and remembering “similar comments” from Byrd without specifics is meaningless as well.
“As to my personal background, I never speak about it, I am merely an anonymous internet person, whose ideas you will have to assess in a pure intellectual vacuum.”
No context. Thanks. I’ve got a good idea though.
“And lets be serious, google bush and fascist or fascism…”
Yes, do get serious. Obama has been called soc1alist, fascist, communist, and more ad nauesum and not just from bloggers. Other members of congress and the rw press has been pushing that crap.
It is simply unprecedented that a US Representative would call for the overthrow of the US government. And she’s the same nutcase that called for investigating her colleagues in Congress. She is quite simply advocating treason. If any elected official would have done the same to Bush the right would have been screaming night and day for their heads. Yet you throw out a false equivalency to downplay her outrageous comment.
“Then what was your point? Bachmann calling for a “revolution†is without comparison.”
I said it reminds me of progressives calling Bush and his Admin and the GOP fascists. I wasnt making a direct comparison, only saying that type of rhetoric reminds me of the progressive movement that wanted Bush on trial some place.
“Ellison’s comment was not about Bush”
Really?
“”It’s almost like the Reichstag fire, kind of reminds me of that. After the Reichstag was burned, they blamed the Communists for it, and it put the leader of that country in a position where he could basically have authority to do whatever he wanted.”
He was comparing Bush’s reactions to 9/11 to Hitler and the Reichstag.
“Vice-President Dick Cheney’s stance of refusing to answer some questions from Congress was “the very definition of totalitarianism, authoritarianism and dictatorship”, he added.
But for the record I like Ellison voted for him and think hes doing a good job.
CS, you must have been a big opponent of the Reagan deficits and a hge supporter of the Clinton budgets.
I must confess I’m not up on Carter’s fiscal performance.
DAR, you and I would be able to strike a deal on tax policy for corporate CEOs, although we don’t usually base tax policy on job title. Not that we couldn’t.
So you’re against the progressive income tax, eh? What used to be accepted without hesitation by the vast majority as inherently fair is now viewed with suspicion—great work by the well funded “conservative” movement over the past 30 years!
How ever did we generate the massive national wealth and employment we did from 1936-1980 with those high marginal tax rates on our Glorious Achievers? We certainly got a lot of benefit from the massive wealth disparity created by our tax policy over the past 25 years, didn’t we?
Next, our Repub friends will tell us we “really” were a great economic failure as a nation during the high-tax post war years—just like the New Deal didn’t work during the Depression! A new conserva-schtick for Amity Schlaes!
“It is simply unprecedented that a US Representative would call for the overthrow of the US government.”
I totally agree, and she is a nut. No argument from me there. Dont confuse my comments for support of MB. Im only saying the rhetoric is familiar to me.
” Obama has been called soc1alist, fascist, communist, and more ad nauesum and not just from bloggers.”
Come on Dora! The blog this one for istance or KKs now defunct blog was notorius for Bush is a Fascist Nazi rhetoric. Spare me the Obama gets more than Bush did. Bush will go down as the worst most unpopular president prehaps of all time, you cant tell me now he wasnt villified ont he blogs, internet, youtube, cable news etc… Get real.
“DAR, you and I would be able to strike a deal on tax policy for corporate CEOs, although we don’t usually base tax policy on job title.”
I like the idea of long term vesting of stock options for CEOs a great deal. Give them a smaller salary and force them to make good decisions for long term growth and stability. No complaints from me.
It’s not tax policy on corporate CEO’s more like a salary cap for any publicly-traded company that I envision.
I get the idea of a progressive tax but the minute you start setting up all those brackets you’re asking for someone to game the system, and for a whole parasitic class of auditors and accountants. What value are they adding? I like things simple. I like the idea of everyone pulling their weight. What better way to keep it simple than to have everyone pay the same rate? I got news for you, a flat tax rate is plenty progressive in the sense that you pay more money the more money you make. 25% of a million is 5 times more than 25% of $50,000.
Whoops correction. 25% of a million is 20 times more than 25% of $50,000.
“Octogenarian Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia made the equation in the context of Bush’s attack on Senate procedures which might slow or halt his on-going attempt to pack the courts with extreme right-wing fanatics. Byrd said Bush’s moves to destroy time-honored Senate rules parallel Hitler’s ramming fascist legislation through his gutted Reichstag. “Hitler never abandoned the cloak of legality,” said Byrd. “He recognized the enormous psychological value of having the law on his side. Instead, he turned the law inside out and made illegality legal.”"
Just as D2’s posts reek of the Michael Savage show, this reeks of Media Matters.
Both outlets are as far to the edge of the wingnut scale as you can get without falling over the edge.
Yeah, in fact Media Matters today had an article on the attention the press is paying to Obama’s use of a teleprompter. A teleprompter?!?
Whew, you really can’t get much further to the wacky fringe left than a brief analysis of the media’s current obsession with a president using prepared remarks and (GASP!) a teleprompter. And they way they always include a transcript to back up what they’re pointing out… well if that isn’t the ideological equivalent of calling for people to catch AIDS and die (Dan Savage special) I don’t know what is.
Good catch.
“that type of rhetoric reminds me of the progressive movement that wanted Bush on trial some place.”
That type of rhetoric is not indicative of the “progressive movement”. There is no comparison. You are full of crap.
Ellison was drawing an historical parallel. Is that what Bachmann was doing? Not even close. Even with Ellison’s comments there wasn’t a hint of him advocating for a “revolution”.
You’re still pushing a false equivalency.
“…totally agree, and she is a nut…”
Ms. Bachmann puts the nut in Nutterbutter and the twit in Nitwit.
People would pull capital out of the US financial system Im pretty sure of that if income tax was raised that high. Whats the point of keeping your capital in a US bank system that charges you 75% on your income over $1 million if you could easily move the deposits to dollar demoniated accounts In Europe or Asia?
You do realize that moving yourself (or your money) out of the country doesn’t get you out of paying income taxes, don’t you? A person would have to move out of the country, renounce their citizenship, and create a revenue stream that wasn’t being generated in the US. Because half of any income over $1 million is “split with the house” is hardly a reason to turn your life upside down. And 50/50 is a better deal than a lot of brokerage houses offer.
“Get real”
Get real yourself Deacon. A US Representative calling for “revolution” on the heels of her other inflammatory language about making those opposed to Obama’s policies “armed and dangerous” is no where near namecalling on blogs from anonymous posters.
And yes, Obama does get more in a much more public way by Republican Party and conservative operatives than Bush ever did.
“Ellison was drawing an historical parallel. Is that what Bachmann was doing? Not even close.”
Well, uh, except for the part where our nation was founded by uh, revolutionaries who didn’t want to pay their taxes. Not that I agree with Michelle Bachmann.
“Octogenarian Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia made the equation in the context of Bush’s attack on Senate procedures
Which would be consistent with the reasoning behind most people’s use of the Nazi comparison. They’re not comparing Bush to the Nazi’s use of genocide, they’re making the comparison to Bush’s elevating the executive to an unchecked and unaccountable branch of government and his use of the “For your own saftey” rational for breaking international treaties and US laws.
Personally I prefer the Mafia instead of the Nazis for my Bush equivalencies, but that’s just me.
Once again Deacon, Byrd did not advocate “revolution”.
You obviously don’t get it.
DAR, the revolutionaries were against taxation without representation.
She tried to make that historical comparison in her “you da man Michael Steele” speech but feel flat on her face when she wondered what the revolutionaries would have thought of taxation with representation. Duh. That’s what they wanted.
“That type of rhetoric is not indicative of the “progressive movementâ€. There is no comparison. You are full of crap.”
Okay Dora, Maybe those people talking like that arent progressives. What would you call them? Ill use whatever definition you like.
“And yes, Obama does get more in a much more public way by Republican Party and conservative operatives than Bush ever did.”
You’re nuts. Bush was loathed world wide and the but of jokes and ridicule and for good reason I might add for 7 years. Im not buying this Obama gets it worse line of Bull when you consider what his poll numbers look like. Look around Dora.
uh, revolutionaries who didn’t want to pay their taxes.
Close. It wasn’t that they didn’t want to pay their taxes, they didn’t want to pay taxes without representation.
Dan,
I’m not making an ideological assessment, I’m making a psychological assessement.
The other day had a front page, top of the site rant because the right wing extremist media, aka the NY Times, LA Times, CNN. and ofcourseofcourse, Fox
for making the assessment that Obama’s news conference was dull. No analysis of whether most of the media outlets and the 92% of the people that were still awake at the end of the conference found it dull, might be an indication that the oonference was dull.
Anyone outraged at that should hope Michelle’s padded cell has bunk beds.
That’s a toxic level of outrage.
Dora, Im trying to say there are plenty of people on the ultra left side of the spectrum that wanted revolution or violence, war crime charges etc etc, when it came to Bush. Senators and Congressmen have compared his actions and tactics to those of the Nazis and Hitler. Thats all Im trying to say.
The point, Deacon, is that Bachmann calling for a “revolution” is not the same as “people talking like that”.
I’m not going to label them anything, just don’t be attributing their views to the “progressive movement”.
“You do realize that moving yourself (or your money) out of the country doesn’t get you out of paying income taxes, don’t you?”
Good point. How about corporate stores of capital and charters. Any chance they move? If you’d agree that if the personal income rate on high incomes goes to 75%, the climate would be ripe for an increase in corporate tax hikes dont you think?
might be an indication that the oonference was dull.
Or it could have something to do with their being ticked at not being called for questions and being whiny pouting babies.
“The point, Deacon, is that Bachmann calling for a “revolution†is not the same as “people talking like thatâ€.”
I guess I happen to think comparing Bush to Hitler is a little out of line and on the same level as calling for revolution which is in all honestly a politcal stunt on both accounts. Stupid and pointless and politically self destructive, but not dangerous. Thats the point IM trying to make. But in the interest of fairness, my original statement wasnt properly worded to make that understood.
Deacon, give me a break! Being the butt of jokes and ridicule is not equivalent to being called soc1alist, communist, etc and advocating revolution by Republican members of Congress and their media minions. Yes, Obama gets it worse because he also gets the ridicule and “jokes” as well. You’re hopeless.
the climate would be ripe for an increase in corporate tax hikes dont you think?
Too many loopholes for corporations. Any rise in the tax rate would have to be top marginal rates on individual earners. And if congress couldn’t even bring up the issue when they were all clamoring to go after the AIG bonuses, it will never happen in our lifetimes.
“…but not dangerous.”
Advocating overthrow of the US government is treasonous. And yes, that is dangerous as well. It is not on the same level. Obviously, you don’t understand that.
“they didn’t want to pay taxes without representation.”
Those were the inspiring words, sure, but ever consider that was mere propaganda? Suppose the Colonies were granted representation in the House of Commons. the English coulda taken the rhetorical wind out of Patrick Henry’s sails if on’y they’d granted it.
The colonies’ representation (assuming proportionality) would have been a small minority in the house of Commons. If the rest of England voted to tax the hell out of the Colonies, what would having representation have done to stop it? That was just a good slogan to whip up patriotic sentiment in the American public. Hell, it even rhymed.
Think our founding fathers had their commerce taxed as much under the government they set up as they had under the Crown?
Don’t get me wrong, I think the founders bequeathed unto us something truly great in the Constitution, but I don’t think their motives for the revolution were 100% ideological.
“You’re hopeless”
No Dora, you are. Ive never seen a president more loathed and ridiculed world wide than Bush and a president more loved at the moment than Obama. Thanks for clarifying though where your bias obviously lies.
“Being the butt of jokes and ridicule is not equivalent to being called soc1alist, communist, etc”
Dora, you’re being ridiculous. You dont think Bush was called a Nazi, War Criminal, Burned in ephagy, called a fascist?
“and their media minions”
And their media minions? How about Farenheit 9/11? See that one did ya? Or perhaps Olbermann’s rant a month or so ago when in his special report he siad “Mr. Bush, you are a fascist”?
You’re right, not a call to revolution. Anyway no one actually thinks MB is credible or capable of starting a revolution accept perhaps you. She’s a nut, insane. Not a threat. But dont give this crap about Obama’s hard road against the media and the bloggs and the public compared to Bush.
“Too many loopholes for corporations.”
Under current tax law. If the congress can find the right political climiate to raise the highest marginal tax rate to 75%, then the time would be right to close all corporate tax loopholes Id think.
But didnt you try and argue the other day congress already tried to raise it to 90%? You still dont believe that do you or are you ready to admit Olbermann was being misleading?
“Or it could have something to do with their being ticked at not being called for questions and being whiny pouting babies.”
That’s possible given the nature of journalists, but is sure as hell isn’t an indicator that the NY times and LA times are part of the “Conservative Propaganda Machine”
The conference was dull. That’s the assessment of someone who spent his lunch break figuring out how far into space 20.1 trillion dollar bills laid end to end would stretch. (221,316,8905 miles)
What’s despicable about conservatives like Crazy Michele is that they are using such extremist rhetoric 2 months into a new administration. The fact that they are members of Congress seems not to restrain them. Put a microphone in front of Loony Michele and the vomit spews out. That’s her “job” as a “foreign correspondent” reporting “from enemy lines”.
What in the world will the kook be saying after the Congress does something really heinous, like (gasp) pass a budget she disagrees with? Our FREEDOMS are at risk!
The take on the Dems was always that they were too milktoast on Bushco’s abuses, not that they were too inflammmatory: “Weak Dems”, “Spineless Dems”, “Flat on their back”, etc.
The other point to remember is that when more severe rhetoric of Bush did get uttered by a few members of Congress, it was after years of abuses, an invasion that we had been lied into and increasing revelations of the massive lawbreaking being undertaken by Cheney et al. This started the occasional Nazi analogies like Ellison’s Reichstag Fire comment, which were a reflection on actual events which occurred literally YEARS before the comment.
Well, Darlin’ Michele didn’t wait two months before for her calls for “revolution” against fairly routine policy proposals by the Obama admin and her desire that the populace be “armed and dangerous”. War against a country that did nothing to us? Revelations of massive presidential lawbreaking?
Nope. Small tax increases for the rich. New receivership policies in a time of massive corporate bankruptcies. Revolution!! Our way of life is threatened!! We’re losing our FREEDOM!!
This is irresponsible based on the supposed “provocation” and given that we already have a history of violence and domestic terrorism from a component of her “base” (militarist conservative white males—think Oklahoma City bombing), this is very, very rash of her and another sign that she is literally deranged.
As Dora says, there just ain’t no comparison.
“Advocating overthrow of the US government is treasonous.”
Isnt that why we have the 1st ammendment? To overthrow a tyrannical govt? Im not saying nor do I believe this is a govt of that nature or that MB has any foundation for making such a claim, but isnt that the whole purpose of the 1st ammendment?
or are you ready to admit Olbermann was being misleading?
Was it Olberman or one of his guests?
Who’s being misleading now?
(And weren’t they talking about the bonuses and not the general tax marginal rates? – though I didn’t see the episode to know the context. You watch more Olberman than I do.)
Isnt that why we have the 1st ammendment?
FIRE!
“Was it Olberman or one of his guests?”
It was a guest but he didnt make any sort of a clarification at all. He let it go which is misleading and his responsibility Id think to fix if its his show.
“And weren’t they talking about the bonuses and not the general tax marginal rates?”
You and I were that day and they were talking about the bonuses on that show but thats not what the guest said at all. It was a complete misrepresentation of what the vote actually was.
“Remember, these are the very same people who tell you the country will be destroyed if the top tax rate slips up another four points, like the way it was under Bill Clinton. If it goes from 35, where it is now, up to the high 30s, that would be a disaster. But today, they voted to take it from 35 to 90.”
Um no they didnt. Thats a lie.
FIRE!
I thought that was the second amendment?
“ephagy”
Wow, now thats poor spelling. E F F I G Y.
My bad, second ammendment. But isnt in your first ammendment rights to advocate for the over throwing of your tyrannical (in her mind only) govt?
“My bad, second ammendment. But isnt in your first ammendment rights to advocate for the over throwing of your tyrannical (in her mind only) govt?”
The first gives you the right to advocate it. The second gives you the means to do it.
“But isnt in your first ammendment rights to advocate for the over throwing of your tyrannical (in her mind only) govt?”
Yes, the second amendment is the one where you yell FIRE.
But today, they voted to take it from 35 to 90.â€
On the bonuses, which was the context of the conversation. So I wouldn’t put this in the “lie” category, however I would accept a “misleading” category.
“The first gives you the right to advocate it. The second gives you the means to do it.”
So then treason is really a relative matter. Anyway Bachmann’s rant are going NOWHERE. Shes a baffoon. Is that the correct spelling?
But isnt in your first ammendment rights to advocate for the over throwing of your tyrannical (in her mind only) govt?
Incitement to riot is not protected speech.
“On the bonuses, which was the context of the conversation.”
That’s what congress voted on. The Olbermann guest, O’Donnell(?) said they voted to raise the highest marginal tax rate from 35% to 90%. THATS a lie. He lied. Olbermann let it slide and THAT was misleading.
Its the same crap Oreilly pulls or Hannity. I did see Oreilly correct Laura Ingram when she tried to claim ACORN was getting stimulus money. He shut her down pretty quick. I thought maybe, given the new political climate, he was trying to come back to the center for ratings? Probably not.
“Incitement to riot is not protected speech.”
So how can you overthrow a tyrannical govt? And was she trying to incite a riot?
buffoon.
and an ultra-maroon.
I don’t believe Michelle is advocating an overthrow of the gov’t, just as she wasn’t advocating people take up arms (although the liberal bloggers will tell you otherwise). She’s using an extremely poor choice of words to advocate standing up to the Dem policies.
She’s as nutty as a peanut farmer’s turd
but she’s not truly insane.
I’ll never accuse her of being particularly bright. Stupid people do get through law school.
“advocate for the overthrowing of [our] government”
Well, when the old political left in this country did things like this during WWI and in the McCarthy Era, they were hauled into court under (repealed?) “sedition” laws and the Supreme Court upheld their convictions, despite the First Amendment. But of course we don’t hold the Reactionary Right to the same “rules” of conduct….
Look, Michele isn’t going to be charged with a crime—even though she’s a member of Congress pledged to uphold the constitution, not call for a citizen “revolution” (orderly or not) against the elected government, calling her fellow members of Congress a foreign “enemy”.
She is using wildly intemperate language which could very well incite crazy people to violence, as a member of Congress. That’s quite bad enough.
She’s a national disgrace.
So how can you overthrow a tyrannical govt?
Through the ballot box.
And was she trying to incite a riot?
Was she advocating we vote the bums out, or issuing a call to arms?
Anyone who calls Bachmann a traitor is just as stupid as Ann Coulter, who is all too fond of calling people traitors when they’re really not.
Bachmann is an ultra-maroon but not a traitor.
“people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back.”
Does anyone besides Dora and Parthian really think she wants Minnesotans to form malitias and start and armed revolution against the US Govt? Or was this a stupid play on words? A dumb politcally stupid metaphor? Shes an idiot, not some type of revolutionary. Come on. I dislike her too but Im not going to claim she is actually serious about storming the US Capital or something or planting bombs. Is that what you think Dora, that Bachmann REALLY means people in MN should start a violent revolution? Or was she talking about a revolution as a metaphor?
“as nutty as a peanut farmer’s turd”
I have to remember that one.
“Was she advocating we vote the bums out, or issuing a call to arms?”
I think she gave ammunition, (oops can I say that?) to partisans like Parthian and Dora who want to everything they can to get her out of office. This is a chance to help make her look even more stupid and out of touch. But my god, MB isnt some violent revoluitionary traitor. She is bad with words and public speaking and shoots from the hip. (oops, there I go again with violent metaphors) It gets her into trouble. You’ve gone off the partisan deep end in my opinion on this one Dora. There is nothing to this other than another political gaffe from MB.
crazier that a sh!thouse rat.
toys in the attic.
bats in her belfry.
a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
’round the bend.
not firing on all cylinders.
Im going to look this weekend to see if anyone on the liberal side of things ever said anything like lets start a revolution or join the revolution or anything to that effect. Anyone want to bet nothing like that ever came out of a Dems mouth? Anyone?
But for now, its adieu. Its Miller time.
The revolution will not be televized.
10-4.
She isn’t limiting anything to Minnesota, deacon. She made this call for a “revolution” on a nationally syndicated radio show, knowingly listened to by the most unstable and extreme elements of the conservative movement, after previously using highly inappropriate “armed and dangerous” language earlier in the week.
No one can rationally say what is “really” going on in her “mind” at this point. She’s pushing the envelope to see what happens, perhaps to see if she can be turned into some sort of conservative martyr.
It really shouldn’t be downplayed.
It’s highly, highly irresponsible. This is the sort of thing the FBI doesn’t like to see. Especially from a member of Congress.
“Acutally it’s that I hate you less than CNC.”
Sarge, You are my blog buddy, for life.
“She’s a national disgrace.”
Naw, Minnesota is. Well maybe not a disgrace but a national joke.
Bachman and now Franken.
Yuk Yuk Yuk
..knowingly listened to by the most unstable and extreme elements of the conservative movement…
I’ve been hearing that one for years with every talk show host perceived as conservative, I’ve just never heard of anyone, outside of a few very rare instances, being incited commit a violent act as a direct result of the words of a radio host.
Perhaps your use of the word unstable is a sign of you falling for the vitriol of the left wing propaganda machine.
I do agree with you that words like ‘armed” and “revolution” are highly irresponsible coming from the mouth any member of congress.
“It really shouldn’t be downplayed.
It’s highly, highly irresponsible. This is the sort of thing the FBI doesn’t like to see. Especially from a member of Congress.”
I really think your making too much of it. Things like this get played up by the opponents for political gain. I think thats where youre going with it myself. I didnt think Obama was some sort of soc:@list for sying when you spread the money around everyone wins. I dont think Bachmann is trying to incite a revolution now. I dont think people are going to get hurt over this and I dont think its treason. I think its stupid rhetoric for political gain and both sides are trying to take advantage.
Cue Dora: “Thats a false equivilancy Deacon!!!”
Listen to these people talk about Afghanistan. Hell they want us to go into Pakistan.
I never seen such a turn around in support for “war” in my life…Ahhh “The Good War”
Listen to these people. Like I said we should have had it like this for the last 8 years. War issues are out of bounds. But oh no now its the great Obama and everyone is on board.
Kill Kill Kill
And I never heard the word “escalation” ALL DAMN DAY LONG.
I knew this whole Iraq thing was about getting Democrats elected and nothing else. Thats why after a lifetime at least I had the guts to quit the party of Treason.
I will support Obama in this effort 100% but I will not support the likes of parthian ,Dora and others supporting it. They do and they will hear it from me.
I’ve just never heard of anyone, outside of a few…
Yeah, it’s only been a few, so what the hell.
Tell that to the families of the victims of James Adkisson. In his own words:
“I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a commun!st state. Shame on them….
“This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marx!st movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickensh!t liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It’s the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence.”
“I thought I’d do something good for this Country Kill Democrats til the cops kill me….”
This is MB and her media enablers’ audience.
“I do agree with you that words like ‘armed†and “revolution†are highly irresponsible coming from the mouth any member of congress. ”
Yes, and that is the point that rational people can understand.
The right was just fine with yelling “TREASON!” to anybody that disagreed with Bush. Dissent is not treason.
But, strictly speaking, calling for a revolution and using incendiary language when doing so is treason.
Do I think she’s going to take up arms and lead a pack of extremists to violently overthrow the government? Of course not. But threats from our known domestic terrorist groups are on the rise. It doesn’t take much to push crazies like that over the edge.
The woman is a lunatic. Yeah, she’s spewing rhetoric. But it’s dangerous rhetoric and it should be condemned, especially by a member of Congress, not dismissed as harmless political posturing as Deacon is doing.
So, I’m waiting for anyone to show me how the Left is just as bad. Come on all you Professors of the False Equivalency, let’s have at it.
“The right was just fine with yelling “TREASON!†to anybody that disagreed with Bush. Dissent is not treason.”
Then start dissenting against this Afghanistan thing! I support it but I know and you know and god knows and everyone on this planet knows your BIG MOUTH would be running wild if this was McCain doing this.
So lets see some damn Dissent posts Dora…Start posting!
Taking your politics into foreign policy to advance your party…shameful FRAUDS all of you.
Come Dora lets see some “Escalation†Posts. Lets see some “Creates more Terrorist†post.
COME ON YOU FRAUD
Hey Tiny, right-wingers being driven by their media to start shooting people. Surely you can find something to show how the left is just as bad.
I’ll be waiting.
What the hell are you talking about.
Just post you’re Anti-Obama Afghanistan War Criminal posts like you would be if McCain was president.
Come On.
Nothing pisses me off more the silence from the WackJobs just because the President has a D behind hes name. Never stopped the Vietnam Nut Cases. They went after Johnson. They at least had convictions.
You people are FRAUDS
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FRAUDS.
Still waiting….
somebody stated: “Acutally it’s that I hate you less than CNC.â€
Poor libs, always full of hate.
Good news, Pelosi’s unfavorable rating is only at 60% and Reid has an approval rating of 23%. Of course, 42% did rate Pelosi’s job performance as “very unfavorable.
2010 is going to be a very good year for the GOP.
By the end of this decade, the deficit will exceed 5 percent of gross domestic product according to the CBO. Even the administration’s budget chief acknowledged these levels of debt are dangerously high. Orszag stated that Obama’s budget would produce deficits that could not be sustained.
Who is going to buy this debt? Aren’t the libs claiming that they care about our children?
Poor libs, always full of hate.
But who’s doing the gunning down of innocents in their churches? That’s some mighty powerful hate going on their.
I suppose if the left was gunning people down I’d be steep in denial too.
Test?
http://www.startribune.com/local/32322889.html
Dan, just because he is a moron and failed doesn’t mean he wasn’t going to kill people.
This is sick.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jrT6-HbQxZhJKo8J0LQxoRc84rHQD975K0VO0
Mixon’s cousin, Dolores Darnell, 26, addressed the small crowd, calling him “a true hero, a soldier.”
“This is the real Lovelle,” she said, holding a picture of a smiling Mixon with his wife. “We do apologize for what he did to the officers’ families. But he’s not a monster.”
Maybe they haven’t heard what he’s done. A quick glance at his criminal record proves this wrong.
Thanks for the links DJ. I wonder what party the people from the “International People’s Democratic Uhuru Movement” voted for? I doubt the policemen wanted this type of change when they voted.
Thanks for the links DJ.
I didn’t post it so you could use for political purposes. I posted it because it’s disgusting. It’s almost equally disgusting that you and DD take these tragedies and use them for your own personal gain. And it’s not like either of you get any real gain out of it. It’s just fuel that you can use when blogging. It’s pathetic.
People commit terrible crimes in the name of Islam and Christianity and almost every religion. That doesn’t make the religion evil. Nor do these crimes in any way reflect on Democrats or Republicans. They are just fvcked up people who are committing terrible crimes.
But go ahead. Get all the pleasure you can out of 4 cops getting murdered. Enjoy throwing it in peoples’ faces…
It’s almost equally disgusting that you and DD take these tragedies and use them for your own personal gain.
Personal gain? You’re short a few cards there. I’m sick of the false equivalencies and trying to make the point that the MB’s and their (barely) coded dog whistles to marginally stable and openly violent people via eagerly complicit “mainstream” media is a serious problem, and the people acting out violently against other people (your link referred to “A 23-year-old Michigan man … plotting to detonate a homemade bomb in the tunnels near the Xcel Energy Center, hoping it would cause a power failure, not a gunman directly targeting people”) seems to be primarily a function of the right. There is no equivalency to the McVeighs and Rudolphs and Skinheads and this latest politically motivated shooter on the left, and to suggest otherwise is to be politically dishonest.
Pointing to MB’s rhetoric, saying it needs to stop, and rejecting others claims that it’s harmless or that “both sides do it” is NOT pursuing “personal gain,” whatever the hell that means.
I just got back from a great UMD win so I am in a good mood. Here, Tiny is making me laugh and laugh.
No chance, Tiny. The BQ is host to the biggest of the biggest frauds in leftie land.
Yes, Obama has changed social issues to the left.
But on both the war, and spending like a drunken sailor, he is outdoing Bush. And by alot! But the frauds are intellectually challenged Mpls North graudates, so as long as he has that D after his name……….Dannie, Parthie, dora are sedated by their warm garbage trough pablum. MMMMMM!
And the wailing over Bachmann, never mind loonies like Kucinich and Ellison actually file wacko impeachment motions against our legally elected officials.
Or McCain cant even give his acceptance speech without Code dorks rudely interupting.
Bachmann gets in the gutter with all our leftie dorks, and the dorks obviously dont like it,
especially when an intelligent woman is kicking some lazy liberal a$$!
Dan really is delusional. I hope he has a good shrink.
parthian says:
March 27th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
She isn’t limiting anything to Minnesota, deacon. She made this call for a “revolution†on a nationally syndicated radio show, knowingly listened to by the most unstable and extreme elements of the conservative movement, after previously using highly inappropriate “armed and dangerous†language earlier in the week.
This type of post is sign of a blogger in serious need of some time in a padded room.
And the award, for Best Actor in a Dramatic Performance goes to:
Parthian
Oh! Ah! What a performance.
This was parthian’s finest performance.
Awesome.
I guess when your side is screwing it up in an unimaginable fashion, the hyperbolic vomitus spewing from the likes of Parthian become overwhelming.
As they say in Vegas, dont sit in the “splash zone,” and with this Parthian drivel it is SMELLIEEEE!
Gawd, have our lefties become this braindead?
Dan, say what you want, but you’re blaming murder on a political party. It’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
But the frauds are intellectually challenged Mpls North graudates
What’s wrong with Mnpls North? There are a lot of students there with an IQ 10 times yours. 6th District? Let me guess… you voted for Bachmann? Like I said, I’d be careful before you start making fun of North students. Just because it’s a public school doesn’t mean the students are morons.
DJ says:
But the frauds are intellectually challenged Mpls North graudates
What’s wrong with Mnpls North? There are a lot of students there with an IQ 10 times yours. 6th District? Let me guess… you voted for Bachmann? Like I said, I’d be careful before you start making fun of North students. Just because it’s a public school doesn’t mean the students are morons.
Hey, a smart comment for once! Kinda of. 10x? Do you know how IQ scales work? That would be 10X Dan’s IQ….. )
It is a long running joke that our braindead, vomitus spewing leftie morons TAKE as an insult.
They jump and take it everytime!, like red meat thrown in Sarge’s cage.
But you are right, Minneapolis is the f word in that insult, not the school.
But thanks for asking, finally a rare moment of deep analysis by a BQ’er. Nobody has ever asked your question, they just ASSuME it’s an insult. There is HOPE for our otherwise lame blog.
And for the record, MB continues to be the darling of the media circuit. And Adam Curry was drooling over her MIL”F” status, and he is hardly RW’er if you know what I mean.
“But who’s doing the gunning down of innocents in their churches?”
Dan you left out this line from Adkisson
“Liberals are a pest like termites.”
He reminds me of our newly returned neighbor, Kathleen Soliah, of “Death to the fascist insect” fame. Of course she’s just a regular bourgeois pig now
“So, I’m waiting for anyone to show me how the Left is just as bad.”
Stalin
Castro
Pol Pot
Mao
ESPN
(updated March 32, 2009)
Steelers to loose Super Bowl Trophies:
Pittsburgh, PA. The Super Bowl XLIII Champion Pittsburgh Steelers, the only team to win six titles, will soon be loosing half of those trophies. After a meeting between NFL Commissioner Rodger Gadel and President Barack Hussein Obama, Obama decided to redistribute half of their Steeler Super Bowl victories and trophies to less fortunate teams in the league.
“We live everyday in the country that invented the Super Bowl.†said Obama “We are not about to lose this Great American tradition in the wake of these difficult times.†Obama’s plan calls for the Steelers, who are a successful NFL team, to give half of their Super Bowl trophies to teams that are not successful or have not been as successful as the Steelers. “The Detroit Loins are just as much a part of the same fiber of the NFL as the Steelers and they should, no rather will, be entitled to a Super Bowl Trophy as well.†Obama explains in his plan that he has imposed on Godel and the NFL.
The Pittsburgh Steelers, who by virtue of hard work, excellent team play, stellar draft choices, responsible investing of free agents, careful hiring of coaches and excellent community service and commitment to their fans, has prospered greatly during the past 30 years and have won six Super Bowl Trophies. But President Barack Hussain Obama’s plan calls for the Pittsburgh Steelers to carry the larger burden of the NFL’s less successful teams. Obama went on to further proclaim, “In these difficult times we are all in this to work together. We must reclaim the NFL Championship Dream for every team, for every city and for every fan.â€
“My plan will not affect 31 of the 32 teams in the league.†Obama assures. That’s over 95 percent of the teams in the NFL will not have to worry about loosing any Super Bowl Trophies. “The worst teams in the NFL and the teams that can’t seem to get a break and win a championship will no longer have to worry about going without a title.†Obama promises. “We are a country and league of hope. We all need to make a change. It does not matter the color of the teams uniforms, the personal decisions that the teams make or their performance but rather if they are a member of this great American league.â€
The Super Bowl XLIII trophy will be redistributed to the 0-16 Detroit Lions. Through no fault of their own incompetence, the Lions could not manage a victory all season and this trophy will help ease the pain of their lack of performance and give them hope once again. The redistribution of Super Bowl XL trophy will go directly to the Steeler’s division rival the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals who also have fallen on hard times have never won a Super Bowl. This victory will bring a smile to hundreds of Bengal fans all over the world as they can now celebrate. Finally, one of the Steeler’s two Super Bowl victories over the Dallas Cowboys will go back to the Cowboys since the league needs to provide hope in the face of difficulty and provide hope in the face of uncertainty. This is a heavy burden for the Steelers but together we can all prosper.
All hope is not lost for Pittsburgh fans, Barack Hussain Obama has another plan in place. Obama has meet with MLB and commissioner Bud Selig on a similar plan. The New York Yankees will redistribute two of their world series trophies to the Pittsburgh Pirates as a supplement to their loosing 16 straight seasons and counting. This plan will help stimulate the Pirates and enable them to regain the American Dream. Barack Hussain Obama will be meeting with the NHL and Michael Phelps in the upcoming weeks as this issue is high on his agenda for “Hope and Change.â€
Obama provides hope to NFL teams.
Steelers must now share their wealth and fruits of their success and hard work.
D2,
Michelle Bachman ain’t half bad looking but she aint half as good lookin as Michelle Obama Mama.
Obama Mamma is the best eye candy ever to step into the whitehouse.
4 more years
4 more years
4 more years
Sarge,
Do I secretly want to be a beautiful black woman because I find the 1st lady so attractive and elegant?
“Michelle Bachman ain’t half bad looking but she aint half as good lookin as Michelle Obama Mama.”
GO, Michelle is a fox, but I don’t agree with you on Mrs. B. Hussein Obama. She’s got that Aunt Esther look to her and I’ll bet she would kick some Soci@list @ss if Barry pissed her off. He admits she’s the boss anyway.
“GO, Michelle is a fox”
And I did mean Michelle Bachmann.
Whatever it takes to get your vote, GO.
More analysis-free idiocy from the King of Buffoonery, 6DJ. Very persuasive, as always. Go North!
It is interesting to see that the demonic lib’ruls and the moderates are at least both able to engage in functional analysis about the Bachmann “problem”–we can substantively discuss why such remarks could be seen as irresponsible, the possible consequences, weighing the evidence, danger, etc. There is a shared common ground of intellectual operation.
Contrast that with the extremist Cretins of the Right—2D, Cash n’ Cretin, and the Prince of Fools, 6DJ. They can’t even participate in the debate. They have no ability to use language to analyze an issue or argue a point.
For example, All 6DJ can manage is to simply declare that “frauds” (like me) who denounce Bachmann’s irresponsible lunacy “are intellectually challenged Mpls. North grauduate”, thus singling out North High for some strange reason.
And then, when challenged on the brainless insult of public school graduates, 6DJ goofily spews that WE are the ones “mistakenly” taking it as an insult. Yeah, that’s why you prefaced the comment with “intellectually challenged”, because you “really” think the graduates aren’t, whereas (only) the libs “wrongly” take it as an insult. (And how would you know how the libs “take it”, anyway? Can you read our minds?)
You are a liar, 6DJ. Not your finest moment. And I wonder what your work colleagues would think of this kind of sh*t and lame excuse-making?
Anyway, what we can see from all this is that there is indeed a common bond between the left and the moderates at BQ, while the “conservatives” are off in their own strange land of derangment, speaking their own childish language of irrationality, insult and idiocy.
As Dan says, Bizzaro World.
Partisan,
Will you ever either admit or deny that you’re a communist? You should be proud of you’re political beliefs, we are!
I just got back from Newark NJ. I’m glad I don’t live in that liberal hell hole.
Partisan says:
nothing.
tiny, I’m glad to see that you can spell FRAUD. Gimme an F! Gimme an R! And I can see that the Lib’rul Hypocrisy ™ is just killin’ you. So I’ll take the bait.
First off, don’t charge Dora with being a fraud on this issue. She and I have been posting here for years and the Bushco War of Terra has never been one of her major issues, at least not that I can recall. So your fraud charge is erroneous there.
I, on the other hand, have spilled millions of pixels on Bush’s Wars and authoritarian militarism over the years. So level your FRAUD charge properly.
You might note that I have continued to inveigh against our nation’s insane and self-defeating militarism, including the very last thread. I am opposed to the universal militarism of our country–the Prussia of the 21st Century—as practiced by both Dems and (to a worse degree) Repubs. But let’s deal with Afghanistan, your specific objection.
First off, you apparently don’t know that Afghanistan and Iraq are two wars, with two different histories. The Afghan War was undertaken in late 2001 with massive and largely unified public support (including most demonic lib’ruls), whereas the fraudulent Iraq invasion of 2003 was not. So right off the bat, the Lib’rul Hypocrisy charge faces some major problems.
Second, most lib’ruls supported the initial efforts at nation building in Afghanistan and believed that the US could indeed do some good there and accomplish something.
Further, it was clear in 2001 that al Qaeda was actually present in Afghanistan, as was Osama, and that the use of military force there was at least rationally related to our real enemy. Those arguments still hold, by the way—more problems for the lib’rul hypocrisy charge.
So lib’ruls supported the Afghan war, supported nation building there, and recognized that this was the real center of operations against the terrorists that attacked the country. None of these hold true for the invasion, occupation and escalation of Iraq, which many, many lib’ruls admittedly opposed from the first time Bush publically mentioned the idea in mid 2002.
Thus, your hypocrisy claim faces some big obstacles based on history, and the idea that because we opposed the escalation in Iraq we necessarily must oppose the escalation in Afghanistan is illogical.
Having said all that, it is no doubt the case that more US troops shooting yet more civilians and breaking down more doors in Afghanistan will very likely generate more terrorists in the long run.
And it’s also very possible that the US will fail in whatever it is now attempting in Afghanistan, just as every Great Power has failed in that Graveyard of Empire. And its also possible that the escalation will be damaging to the stability of Pakistan, a new worry after years of Bush’s incompetence in managing the Afghan situation.
As a result, from what I’m reading and seeing, many, many demonic lib’ruls are critical of the Aghan escalation and Obama’s decision to reinforce Bush’s massive failure. Many see the “war” as lost long ago, see no way out after escalation, see no possible successful strategy, and only additional destabilization of the region. Check out the lib’rul blogs yourself.
So your idea that libs are generally wildly supportive of this decision because Obama(D) is doing it is frankly quite wrong and your hypocrisy charge is overblown.
And don’t say I don’t take your posts seriously.
2Dim, thanks for proving (yet again) the point I made in my 10:04 post.
You’re either the dumbest person in MN, or the greatest straight man a comedian could ever want.
I say it’s the former.
“They can’t even participate in the debate.”
Partisan, how can you have a debate if one side doesn’t answer questions? I simply asked you to confirm or deny that you are a communist, but you are too ashamed to answer.
Parthian SPEWS:
And then, when challenged on the brainless insult of public school graduates, 6DJ goofily spews that WE are the ones “mistakenly†taking it as an insult. Yeah, that’s why you prefaced the comment with “intellectually challengedâ€, because you “really†think the graduates aren’t, whereas (only) the libs “wrongly†take it as an insult. (And how would you know how the libs “take itâ€, anyway? Can you read our minds?)
Gee parth, you seem to be losing it, buddy.
Didnt you like your Academy Award?
I find it so refreshing when people think in something other than obtuse fashion (like a DJ). It is like the beginning of this blog thread when the brickheads like yourself have no idea of where MB is coming from. It is simply right is wrong and left is good brainless thinking that allows morons to run our government. Your babbling 1004 post really, again, indicates your basement should be padded (hint: I dont really think basements are bad, either;who knew? ) ).
Dan hit a home run with the simplest of questions, as has Monty lately and Sarge too. People who arent the mindnumbed robots like yourself or Dora or Dan or ……….
TOPIC: WHY PARTHIANs ARE BLOG FRAUDS.
here is some simple meat……trouble is it gives the dolts indigestion…..
A. After 4 years of the leftie nuts (Pelosi, Kucinich, Ellison) attacking Bushand Cheney as “lawless”, “trampling the constitution,” “law breakers,” people like Dan and Parth give all sorts of cover to the reckless behavior these leftie wingnut politcians.
Parth says, “oh they’re justified to attack Bush blah blah blah…..
Any charges pending against Bush or Cheney. NO. = Our delusional BQ leftie wingnuts ARE delusional.
NOW: their side is in power.
Are an MB or Mark Levin ALLOWED to even question the constitionality of the current admin’s actions?
Ofcourse not, READ the outrageous posts calling MB crazy, or bizarre, etc etc
How dare MB ask these questions, but Kucinich actually filing impeachment motions. Well, that’s different…..
HELLO?????
HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!
B. PARTHIAN and DORA on violence.
After 4 years of relentless attacks on Buchco:
DID YOU MORONS CATCH THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION?
The loony behavior of the past 4 years lead to this riotous meeting where the leftie wingnuts attacked people, police, cars, and buildings.
REAL VIOLENCE.
Yet, to this day braindead people like Parth and Dan probably criticize the police actions, not the perpetrators.
Right? How many arrests?
Yet, heaven forbid that MB suggest people get armed with, with what?
knowledge, grass roots fever, with what?
No, If she speaks it is the end of the world blah blah blah…..
That’s why I can only laugh and laugh at the lame intellect found on these pages. While MB has been a media superstar this week, we get our usual lame BQ leftie arguments. )
BQ? Maybe
Big thinkers. Hardly
Minneaplis North–like it
Basements–love them
Global warming–come on down
Dan and Parth–laughing at them, a fulltime job
I’d evade if I were you, too, 6DJ.
You do evade comrade Partisan!
Well, I will admit that at least 6DJ is now effortfully trying to get his “brain” to function, although it’s painful to watch.
I guess the idea is that the lib’rul BQ bloggers caused the cascading violence at the RNC, so we can’t complain about Bachmann of Congress’s nationwide call for citizen “revolution” and her desire for an “armed and dangerous” population to oppose cap and trade legislation.
First, the endless strawmen. No one claims Darlin Michele can’t ask witnesses stupid questions as a Congresswoman, 6DJ. She has that right and she proudly exercises it.
I also note that you failed to respond to my post about how ignorant your Darlin’ Michele’s questions were about the constitutionality of the recent Fed and Treasury actions—no surprise there.
Second, motions to impeach members of the executive branch are contemplated by the constitution, which creates the impeachment mechanism, try reading it sometime—your Repub boys certainly did with their nonsense impeachment of Clinton. On the other hand, nationwide calls by a member of Congress for a citizen “revolution” against the executive duly elected pursuant to the constitution are not so sanctioned.
As to the (quite minor) violence at the RNC, please identify the Demonic Dem member of Congress who called for it, or said they desired it in any way. We’ll be waiting.
It’s not a surprise that you minimize the deranged and dangerous lunacy of your Darlin” Michele, 6DJ, that’s SOP for the wingnut Right. But as for the “reasons” given in your post, they’re quite a hash of nonsense. I’ll give you a “C” for effort, nevertheless.
Wow a “C’ from partisan, 6DJ. You are always an “A” player in my book. Thanks for speaking the truth! I will give partisan (and the rest of his lib comrades) an “A” for name-calling.
Meanwhile, CNN has fallen to a weak third place in the cable news race. The Fair and Balanced network beat both MSNBC and CNN combined. God bless FoxNews!
Gallup polls report: “People who feel positively about his budget fell from 44% in late February to 39% this week.” A full court press by Obama and his ilk and support is falling for his budget. It seems pretty logical that people understand that spending our nation into bankruptcy isn’t the change they voted for. At least we know who our children will blame for their economic slavery to debt.
“If she speaks it is the end of the world….”
Oops, missed (another) strawman.
No one questions Crazed Michele’s right to “speak”, 6DJ. We’re questioning her call (as an elected member of Congress) for an extra-constitutional, non-electoral (wingnut)citizen “revolution” against the elected government as an “enemy”.
Got it, Mr Straw-eater?
“at least we know who are children will blame….”
Well, if they’re your kids watching Fox Propaganda Network, Crap N Cretin, they won’t be able to add 2+2, let alone understand one thing about the federal budget….just like dear old Dad!
Partisan,
At what age did you become a communist? Just curious.
OUR children, not “are”.
Oy.
2D, at what age did they tell your parents your IQ would never get above 70?
“James Adkisson”
One.
I suppose it’s not too much of a stretch
to say it’s likely that the Bloods, Crips and GD don’t lean too far to te right. They just don’t murder in the name of politics.
your link referred to “A 23-year-old Michigan man … plotting to detonate a homemade bomb in the tunnels near the Xcel Energy Center, hoping it would cause a power failure, not a gunman directly targeting peopleâ€)
Oh, that makes it okay I guess.
Steelers to loose Super Bowl Trophies:
This would have been a lot effective had the writer taken a minute to spell the internet’s single most misspelled ONE SYLLABLE word.
You LOSE a trophy.
You have LOOSE stools.
“First off, don’t charge Dora with being a fraud”
Silence, The Silence.
And I’m sorry the whole Iraq thing went through the UN and all that nonsense. If it had been Gore ( and it would have been don’t kid yourself ) you people would have supported that war, I would still be a democrat and life would be good under Obama.
But you didn’t and I’m not and you’re all Frauds for not holding to your anti-military, anti-war rants of the past.
The only deduction one can make is its the letter behind the name and not ones convictions that really matters.
Shameful and sad.
I at least had the guts to hold to mine and I will Support almost blindly any military action taking by Obama. BUT I expect to be arguing with the same people I have been for the last 8 years.
“2D, at what age did they tell your parents your IQ would never get above 70?”
Partisan,
I think it’s funny that you’re too chicken sh|t to tell us whether or not you’re a communist. Be proud of your beliefs Man!
Police identify 200 children as potential terrorists in UK:
Drastic new tactics to prevent school pupils as young as 13 falling into extremism:
This is exactly why I think it’s a terrible mistake to import so many hard to assimilate Muslim cultures like the Somali’s to America. They may not be terrorists themselves, but there is a reasonable chance that their children could be, especially if they attend a radical Mosque like the one in Minneapolis that’s been in the news and under FBI investigation.
“This is exactly why I think it’s a terrible mistake to import so many hard to assimilate Muslim cultures like the Somali’s to America. ”
Which is exactly why most people are in agreement that you are nothing more than a bigot. A moron bigot. An extremist moron bigot.
You have no clue and continue to fill yourself with information that appeals to your mron senses and that’s where it ends.
At best you’re a poor example at worst, you’re right up there with previous groups in favor of extermination.
Moron.
Hi Greg! How was your day?
Liberal CNN in third place in prime time for first time:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jeEr_9iwtdieF9FQS0td-iGANTgQD976K4IG2
I wish the airports would switch over to FOX NEWS instead of the liberal CNN. The only thing good about that network is it’s token conservative Lou Dobbs.
It is good to see that people are rejecting the liberal media though.
D2,
I did a pol of my friends on who was hotter, Obama Mama or Bachmann.
This is + or – 3 points
Liberal friends – (Don’t have any that would talk to me)
Conservative friends – (wont talk to me when they found out I have a liberal friend)
GO,
I forwarded this to my liberal friend, hopefully he still talks to me.
Thanks for the humor!
n his press conference last Tuesday, In his news conference this week, Barack Obama said that America must reject the “borrow and spend” policies of the past in favor of a strategy of “save and invest.”
That is something I could support. So why is Obama proposing to borrow and spend more than any president in the history of the republic?
Already in the early days of his administration, the government has authorized more debt spending than Ronald Reagan did in eight years in office.
So why are the libs doing this to our children?
SAVE AMERICA, STOP OBAMA!
http://www.startribune.com (comments)
It has been very good allowing readers to give their input on many stories while filtering the ones which might offend liberals like terrorist Sarah Jane Soliah, but I predict all comments will now go though “review” because of the wave of common sense comments which I helped start.
Watch guys, the Strib will now filter everything like the liberal Dump Bachmann site did.
“…but I predict all comments will now go though “review†because of the wave of common sense comments which I helped start.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
D2 provides common sense. Common sense would include not believing habitual liars correct?
So why would listening to anything you say be common sense D2?
Explain please? Is this a new form of logic .. err .. pseudo logic?
You are such a moron.
“I will support almost blindly any military action taken….”
There’s a responsible citizen for you! Just what the Founding Fathers would love to hear! Especially concerning military quagmires in poverty stricken third world countries on the other side of the earth….
And this after a demonstrated gub’mint-manufacturing of a non-existent “cause” to invade Iraq to liberate its oil reserves to benefit gigantic corporate interests.
Tiny, tiny, tiny. When you changed parties did the GOoP require you to throw away your brain? It was a small price to pay, I guess, for solidarity with low grade morons like 2Dim and Cash N Cretin…..
And speaking of Crap N Cretin, let’s see some numbers to go along with your claims, Crapman—as it is, it just looks like you spent your Saturday night gorging on another barrelful of conservative horsesh*t. That’s not healthy eating!
And doesn’t all that horsesh*t consumption give you a hangover in the morning?
“D2 provides common sense.”
Thanks Greg! Have a nice day!
Comrade Partisan rants:
“And this after a demonstrated gub’mint-manufacturing of a non-existent “cause†to invade Iraq to liberate its oil reserves to benefit gigantic corporate interests.”
*****************************************
“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.” –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.” –Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” –Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” Letter to President Clinton, signed by: — Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
“Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.” — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
“There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” Letter to President Bush, Signed by: — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them.” — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…” — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” — Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do” — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” — Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real…” — Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
So according to the extreme fascist D2, common sense is simply lying.
D2, what do you think of the plan to alleviate the bad debt carried by some financial institutes? In particular, banks. Do you think there’s opportunity for large investors to make a profit? Why or why not? Would you suggest commodities would be a good investment option right now?
Greg,
Government created this mess and government needs to keep it’s filty hands off the problem. They also need to stay away from socializing health care.
What made you such a liberal extremist anyway Greg?
D2Si – thanks for the list of quotes. I noticed the “D” behind most of these names. The dems don’t have any problem saying one thing and doing another. Obama is a great example with his “save and invest” budget strategy. Nobody who cares for America would bankrupt the country would they?
The libs only response to these facts will be name-calling. You just have to read Greg’s response above to see that I am right.
God bless capitalism!
CNN reported this gem:
“One of the people named this week to President Obama’s new Task Force on Tax Reform is a member of the AIG board of directors.
Martin Feldstein, a professor of economics at Harvard University, has been on the board of American International Group since 1988.”
No wonder Obama backed off on the AIG bonus issue. So no more AIG bashing libs, Obama will save us with his AIG-economics.
Neither one of the morons can answer the questions.
They can however spew out the rhetoric taught to them by other idiots.
Just like trained chimps.
“D2Si – thanks for the list of quotes.”
You’re welcome Cash! It’s funny to use this list right after liberal extremists like Comrade Partisan and Greg try to claim that the war on Islamic terror is just a Republican ploy to steal oil.
And another lie from the chimp.
How do you explain to your kids that lieing is not a good thing D2?
So being a fascist extremist like D2 means you have to become a master of lies.
Wow .. no idea where reality begins or ends.
Greg,
Don’t you have some chores to do on your commune?
D2,
Don’t you need to clean all your Nancy dresses for the work-week on your commune? And after that, fabricate more lies to the general public?
ADVICE FOR GREG:
Don’t be such an angry liberal! Take a deep breath and think about your comments through before posting them. Maybe that way you won’t look so foolish next time.
Have a nice day!
You get a GOoP gold star for saving that tried and true wingnut bookmark from 2003, 2Dim.
But how do pre-invasion statements by members of Congress who were lied to by Bushco about Saddam’s WMDs “prove” that the executive didn’t manufacture the intelligence and mislead Congress? Or didn’t intentionally overstate the “certainty” of what was “known”?
Oh, that’s right, they don’t.
And how many statements on that list were made after the UN weapons inspectors (who the Dems were pushing to get into Iraq all along) went in and found nothing, anywhere? Oh, none.
And of course Chair of the Senate Intelligence Cmmtee Bob Graham MUST have voted to authorize the use of force against Iraq, what with all that great WMD intelligence we had.
Oops, he voted Nay! Just like most of the Dems on that list. Looks like they didn’t believe the lies of Bushco.
It’s OK, 2Dim, these things are far, far beyond a drooling dogbrain like you. Your goal in life is to be willfully ignorant on all topics, and you succeed handsomely.
But give yourself a nice wingnut sewage treat! Arf! Arf!
“This gem….Martin Feldstein”
Feldstein is one of the leading conservative economists in the US and was St Reagan’s chief economic advisor. And you oppose him?
It’s impossible to calculate how godawful stupid you are, Crap N Cretin.
D2 lecturing on how to not look foolish ..
classic.
D2 .. prior to putting anything on your website have you:
1. Made sure it’s accurate?
2. Made sure the associate link is active?
3. Validated the source of information?
D2 .. have you ever posted ANYTHING on a blog or on your website that was simply a lie?
That would be awfully follish correct?
Moron.
Comrade Partisan and Lefty Greg I’m starting to wonder if you aren’t the same person with your extreme leftist views.
Hey Greg,
My wood splitter is very hard to start, but after you use a little starting fluid it runs fine. I just changed the oil and the spark plug is new, but it seems like it’s starved for fuel. Maybe the fuel filter?
Thanks.
My views are left because I’m pointing out that D2′s posts are mostly lies and need to be verified? That’s pretty much the logic of a moron .. which means .. D2 is a moron.
Change the fuel out if you haven’t and check the points if there are any since it’s been starting hard all this time it’s probably a good place to start.
Thanks Greg.
My best friend who is probably to the left of Hugo Chavez (not Comrade Partisan though) stopped by and we had a couple of Budweiser’s while I got the thing started.
My immigrant friend who is borrowing the splitter has a friend who is very good with small engines and will take a look at it.
Thanks for the advice!
And Greg,
Again, I really like you as a person, despite your extreme leftist leanings.
Thanks for all the mechanic type advice over the past few months.
If pointing out that the information you post on blogs and your website is inaccurate and at times total lies makes me a leftist in D2 land than I’m a leftist in D2 land.
However, in the real world, I’m considered a moderate.
“You get a GOoP gold star for saving that tried and true wingnut bookmark from 2003, 2Dim.”
And you get a DOUBLE progressive gold star for knowing that!!
Do you clowns get paid for being this stupid?
“Do you clowns get paid for being this stupid? ”
I’d guess they aren’t getting paid enough .. or .. they just aren’t convincing anyone they’re side is better.
“I’d guess they aren’t getting paid enough .. or .. they just aren’t convincing anyone they’re side is better.”
Reasonable people would like both of them to:
GET OFF MY SIDE!!!
“However, in the real world, I’m considered a moderate.”
A moderate in the USSR perhaps.
If BQ’s history holds true and we don’t see another topic for a month or so, I don’t mind so much with this one. Michele Bachmann’s picture isn’t hard to look at at.
“If BQ’s history holds true and we don’t see another topic for a month or so, I don’t mind so much with this one. Michele Bachmann’s picture isn’t hard to look at at.”
Put Michelle Obama Mama behind Bachmann, holding a double dong and whip, well by golly ollie…………..
The beauty and the beast.
“Reasonable people would like both of them to:
GET OFF MY SIDE!!!”
Being a fence sitter by nature, more often than not leaning towards the center of the edge, going once, going twice, going thrice, sold, on the down hill trejectory of a side hill swamp footing that never abates more or less with the lunar tides of push me pull you through the pin holes of time unanswered and unheard till the slip of the leathery tongue down and about the absent adams apples domain that of sudden silence can only be wetted by natural salivecal means joyous of those of mankind may never dwell upon most absently among men in the moon and their mooncalves.
Having said that, I shall retire to the den and wet my whistle with such of a glass that may, be the most appropriate adult beverage, which could under normal curcumstances, allow my escape into the worlds of never the less.
“Reasonable people would like both of them to:
GET OFF MY SIDE!!!”
Being a fence sitter by nature, more often than not leaning towards the center of the edge, going once, going twice, going thrice, sold, on the down hill trejectory of a side hill swamp footing that never abates more or less with the lunar tides of push me pull you through the pin holes of time unanswered and unheard till the slip of the leathery tongue down and about the absent adams apples domain that of sudden silence can only be wetted by natural salivecal means joyous of those of mankind may never dwell upon most absently among men in the moon and their mooncalves.
Having said that, I shall retire to the den and wet my whistle with such of a glass that may, be the most appropriate adult beverage, which could under normal curcumstances, allow my escape into the worlds of never the less.
“Reasonable people would like both of them to:
GET OFF MY SIDE!!!”
Being a fence sitter by nature, more often than not leaning towards the center of the edge, going once, going twice, going thrice, sold, on the down hill trejectory of a side hill swamp footing that never abates more or less with the lunar tides of push me pull you through the pin holes of time unanswered and unheard till the slip of the leathery tongue down and about the absent adams apples domain that of sudden silence can only be wetted by natural salivecal means joyous of those of mankind may never dwell upon most absently among men in the moon and their mooncalves.
Having said that, I shall retire to the den and wet my whistle with such of a glass that may, be the most appropriate adult beverage, which could under normal curcumstances, allow my escape into the worlds of never the less.
“Reasonable people would like both of them to:
GET OFF MY SIDE!!!”
Being a fence sitter by nature, more often than not leaning towards the center of the edge, going once, going twice, going thrice, sold, on the down hill trejectory of a side hill swamp footing that never abates more or less with the lunar tides of push me pull you through the pin holes of time unanswered and unheard till the slip of the leathery tongue down and about the absent adams apples domain that of sudden silence can only be wetted by natural salivecal means joyous of those of mankind may never dwell upon most absently among men in the moon and their mooncalves.
Having said that, I shall retire to the den and wet my whistle with such of a glass that may, be the most appropriate adult beverage, which could under normal curcumstances, allow my escape into the worlds of never the less.
Now that I have made myself perfectly clear, it has, no doubt, put your senses at ease to which my transparency no longer alarms you or the populace. The ability to clear ones mind of the day to day trivialities that bind the left and right into a mundane dance of less that meager wits is what has transpired, no, less than has transpired, the notion of drival and ruin.
God, Should he exist for the most part, shall drive down upon the more sceptical a brood sword of hate that would, to the less sceptical, appear to be a hateful passage of history undoing mankinds selfportrait of narcissism.
Now that I have made myself perfectly clear, it has, no doubt, put your senses at ease to which my transparency no longer alarms you or the populace. The ability to clear ones mind of the day to day trivialities that bind the left and right into a mundane dance of less that meager wits is what has transpired, no, less than has transpired, the notion of drival and ruin.
God, Should he exist for the most part, shall drive down upon the more sceptical a brood sword of hate that would, to the less sceptical, appear to be a hateful passage of history undoing mankinds selfportrait of narcissism.
Now that I have made myself perfectly clear, it has, no doubt, put your senses at ease to which my transparency no longer alarms you or the populace. The ability to clear ones mind of the day to day trivialities that bind the left and right into a mundane dance of less that meager wits is what has transpired, no, less than has transpired, the notion of drival and ruin.
God, Should he exist for the most part, shall drive down upon the more sceptical a brood sword of hate that would, to the less sceptical, appear to be a hateful passage of history undoing mankinds selfportrait of narcissism.
P.S.
If by anychance the current administration should not seek a 2nd term, I shall ask that the 1st lady, Michelle Obama, be reinstated as 1st lady for a full 2nd term.
4 more years
4 more years
4 more years
Hubba Hubba
P.S.
If by anychance the current administration should not seek a 2nd term, I shall ask that the 1st lady, Michelle Obama, be reinstated as 1st lady for a full 2nd term.
4 more years
4 more years
4 more years
Hubba Hubba
P.S.
If by anychance the current administration should not seek a 2nd term, I shall ask that the 1st lady, Michelle Obama, be reinstated as 1st lady for a full 2nd term.
4 more years
4 more years
4 more years
Hubba Hubba
partisan states:
“Feldstein is one of the leading conservative economists in the US and was St Reagan’s chief economic advisor. And you oppose him?”
Yes I do. Feldstein should be disqualified for his long-time role as AIG director. You do remember he was one of the favorites for Fed Reserve chairman. President Bush had enough integrity to not pick him based on his AIG dealings.
Obviously integrity is not something Obama understands.
Cash N. Carey says:
Wow a “C’ from partisan, 6DJ. You are always an “A†player in my book. Thanks for speaking the truth! I will give partisan (and the rest of his lib comrades) an “A†for name-calling.
Thanks, but I really am becoming like OT about the BQ. And spent my weekend elsewhere…….
Why waste time arguing with the dan’s, parth’s, Gregs, etc when they are so blind to the obvious hypcrisy that now exists.
And really, after the disgraceful RNC riots,when citizens were simply trying to meet and conduct business, how does one claim it is the right that is reckless, or dangerous?
Or just look at the maps of the red and blue counties from the election, 80% of the land area is red, and the 20% of the BLUE has what % of murders, etc?
Am I wrong to suggest it would be at least 60-80%? Where’s an OT when needed….
The disconnect from reality here is frightening and I am sure OT (police officer, no less) left screaming for that vary reason.
All Parth is left to do is shovel manure and call it: hay/straw………
GAWD, how lame!
And in honor of go’s repeating posts:
6th district Jim says:
March 28th, 2009 at 11:47 am
TOPIC: WHY PARTHIANs ARE BLOG FRAUDS.
here is some simple meat……trouble is it gives the dolts indigestion…..
A. After 4 years of the leftie nuts (Pelosi, Kucinich, Ellison) attacking Bushand Cheney as “lawlessâ€, “trampling the constitution,†“law breakers,†people like Dan and Parth give all sorts of cover to the reckless behavior these leftie wingnut politcians.
Parth says, “oh they’re justified to attack Bush blah blah blah…..
Any charges pending against Bush or Cheney. NO. = Our delusional BQ leftie wingnuts ARE delusional.
NOW: their side is in power.
Are an MB or Mark Levin ALLOWED to even question the constitionality of the current admin’s actions?
Ofcourse not, READ the outrageous posts calling MB crazy, or bizarre, etc etc
How dare MB ask these questions, but Kucinich actually filing impeachment motions. Well, that’s different…..
HELLO?????
HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!
B. PARTHIAN and DORA on violence.
After 4 years of relentless attacks on Buchco:
DID YOU MORONS CATCH THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION?
The loony behavior of the past 4 years lead to this riotous meeting where the leftie wingnuts attacked people, police, cars, and buildings.
REAL VIOLENCE.
Yet, to this day braindead people like Parth and Dan probably criticize the police actions, not the perpetrators.
Right? How many arrests?
Yet, heaven forbid that MB suggest people get armed with, with what?
knowledge, grass roots fever, with what?
No, If she speaks it is the end of the world blah blah blah…..
That’s why I can only laugh and laugh at the lame intellect found on these pages. While MB has been a media superstar this week, we get our usual lame BQ leftie arguments. )
BQ? Maybe
Big thinkers. Hardly
Minneaplis North–like it
Basements–love them
Global warming–come on down
Dan and Parth–laughing at them, a fulltime job
And a ;o0 to Sarge:
I am with you on steaks, for all the places I’ve tried, I am still partial to RC.
Mina and Sinatra were great, but moreso for service and presentation! of great food. I still prefer the RC filet or ribeye to our mina steaks.
N9ne is very good, but the homerun there is the 25 dollar kobe hamburger that is cooked to order, ie medium or medium rare. Half the price and awesome. I had the bone-in ribeye there, and I still liked RC better.
Ditto for SW Steakhouse, I have never had a more tender filet, but still not as flavorful as a sizzling butter dripping RC filet.
Thanks for the tip, on my next trip to SF I WILL be there to try it.
A moderate in the USSR perhaps.
When one’s a fascist, everyone to their left is a communist.
“A “friend” of Vice President Joseph Biden’s daughter, Ashley, is attempting to hawk a videotape that he claims shows her snorting cocaine at a house party this month in Delaware”
I use to like cocaine.
“When one’s a fascist, everyone to their left is a communist.”
Sometimes, when one is a fascist, everyone to their right is a fascist.
“how does one claim it is the Right that is reckless, or dangerous?”
6DJ, brain disconnected as usual, speeds by Dan’s mention of murderous Rightwing lunatic eliminationist Adkisson, en route to hate monger Glen Beck’s Red County “We Surround Them” threat-mongering. But of course it’s the Left that is dangerous and “disconnected from reality”.
Somehow, I doubt that our lovable Bachmannistaner 6DJ will ever hear about the new book “The Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right” by D. Neiwert, a journalist who has studied the deadly violence-prone conservative white male movement for years. (of course reading it is out of the question: do you read ANY books 6DJ? Even by Hannity?)
As every week passes, we have another serial killing by a new gun totin’ enraged white male lunatic. My suspicion is that (like Adkisson) they would all describe themselves as “conservative”, were they still alive to ask. And they seem to be mostly exploding in rural or non-urban areas, 6DJ, not that you would take 2 seconds to notice.
We just had a white-supremacist, Obama-hatin’ conservative white male who had gathered materials for a dirty (radioactive) bomb in his Maine home.
We just had a murderous rampage specifically targeted at demonic lib’rul churchgoers by a conservative white male who was inspired by the 24/7 conservative hate media. But 6DJ sees the window breaking at the RNC as the REAL political “violence” out there. Sheesh, what willful blindness.
So 6DJ is the one “disconnected from reality” and that’s the way he likes it. And I feel very confident his old wingnut copper buddy OT would see it the same way—these guys are oblivious to reality, as they slobber and drool over the thought of their next $50 luxury steak dinner (or is it lunch?)
Appalling.
“I use to like cocaine.”
And now I can’t conjugate verbs correctly.
Just ribbin’ ya.
“I use to like cocaine.â€
No offense Tiny, but I can’t imagine wanting to be in the same room with you when you’re wired.
It would be a little…..intense.
And it’s in a conservative American environment like this that Crazy Michele gasses on about needing the populace to be “armed and dangerous” and calling for a “revolution” to “save our freedoms!” from the recently democratically elected US government.
Intentionally irresponsible. And the federal statute prohibiting sedition is still in effect, BTW.
“And the federal statute prohibiting sedition is still in effect, BTW.”
Its not gonna happen Parthian. You might as well be wishing for the Cubs to win the world series.
I need a hairy little Jewish Princess
With a brand new nose
Who knows where it goes
I want a steamy little Jewish Princess
With over-worked gums, who squeaks when she cums
I don’t want no troll
I just want a Yemenite hole
“And it’s in a conservative American environment like this”
Maybe America is just a conservative place? I doubt it. Its been getting progressively more liberal each passing decade. So I never get this balling over America being a conservative place controlled by some conservative cabal from behind the scenes. Why would they allow Obama to get elected if that was the case?
“these guys are oblivious to reality, as they slobber and drool over the thought of their next $50 luxury steak dinner (or is it lunch?)”
I think Carter was in office the last time a “luxury” steak dinner cost $50
“And it’s in a conservative American environment like this”
I’d disagree with that statement. Maybe you’re pouring out your own lament about the rather voictrous conservative media .. hannity, limbaugh, etc.
I’m more inclined to think America has become more liberal as the years go by and ready to be a bit more open-minded.
Look at the last election?
You’re just paying too much attention to the extremist morons out there trying to make a buck with their rhetoric.
“As every week passes, we have another serial killing by a new gun totin’ enraged white male lunatic. My suspicion is that (like Adkisson) they would all describe themselves as “conservativeâ€, were they still alive to ask. And they seem to be mostly exploding in rural or non-urban areas, 6DJ, not that you would take 2 seconds to notice. ”
Everyweek there is another serial killing? Really? Id like an example of the weekly politically motivated serial killings by this white male movement. Can you post any links?
Sometimes, when one is a fascist, everyone to their right is a fascist.
Could this make any less sense?
“as the years go by and ready to be a bit more open-minded.”
“Open Mined” Now theres a phrase thats gone goofy.
“I’m open minded to the Cannibal Lifestyle.â€
Dan, I’m saying you’re a facist.
Does that clarify?
“conservative American”
Sorry, I was imprecise. I wasn’t trying to argue that America as a country in general was “conservative”, at least not in this post.
I was just trying to describe the current conservative movement that Darlin’ Michele was knowingly speaking to via the Hannity and Beck rage shows. Read it as “conservative-American”.
deacon, you’re misreading me–intentionally, most likely. I’m noting that most of the spectacular serial firearms murder sprees are by enraged gun lovin’ white male lunatics. (Adkisson was reported as clearly politically motivated, however.)
Check out the most recent spree last week–10 killed (family, neighbors, strangers) in rural Alabama by a white male gun nut. Miss that? 6DJ always does…..you can google it yourself, as well as find out about rising mass murder sprees as a result of the nation being awash in guns of every sort.
Oops, 8 killed yesterday in rural North Carolina (all strangers, apparently)
In custody: one Robert Stewart, 45. We shall soon see if we have another enraged white male gun nut serial killer, and his motivations.
Nothin’ to worry about, I’m sure.
As every week passes, we have another serial killing by a new gun totin’ enraged white male lunatic. My suspicion is that (like Adkisson) they would all describe themselves as “conservativeâ€, were they still alive to ask. And they seem to be mostly exploding in rural or non-urban areas, 6DJ, not that you would take 2 seconds to notice.
Firstly, this is all speculation with the exception of Adkisson. Other than him, all you have is white males killing people. Secondly, I’m willing to bet that the average person in prison right now tends to vote to the left.
Check out the most recent spree last week–10 killed
The latest was 7 killed in NC yesterday. Just in case you didn’t see that one. It’s a strange one…
And I hope you are enjoying using these deaths for your political purposes.
Was it 8? My bad. Apparently there were 6 dead yesterday in San Fran too. Does it seem to anyone else that killing sprees are increasing?
I can recall a few months ago, after Katherine published a column sharing her perceived negative influence of rap music and video games on today’s youth, the resident progressives scoffed at the
notion that a message of violence could have any influence over their (mostly young) audience.
Am I expected to believe that conservative media has an influence over their consumers that SOME rap and video games don’t?
It seems to me people want it both ways.
Santa Clara. Not San Fran.
“deacon, you’re misreading me–intentionally, most likely.”
Parthian you said that each week we have another serial killing. What did I misread? If you make a claim like that then back it up. All you have is one instance. From what you wrote :
” As every week passes, we have another serial killing by a new gun totin’ enraged white male lunatic. My suspicion is that (like Adkisson) they would all describe themselves as “conservativeâ€, were they still alive to ask. And they seem to be mostly exploding in rural or non-urban areas, 6DJ, not that you would take 2 seconds to notice.”
it sounds like that there is a new serial killing each week and that there are several white male conservative gun nuts killing people for political reasons. Is that not what you ment? You’re trying to say that there are all these crazy white males running around and that the problem is “exploding” all over rural america. Take this statement along with your “MB is a revolutionary” statements from the other day and I think you’re trying too hard to connect dots. Anyway this Robert Stweart charector shot people in a nursing home? Think he was looking for liberals in there? You’re doing what D2 does so well. Blaming things on the political side you detest and using assumptions and exagerations to make your points.
“Think he was looking for liberals in there?”
The non-partisan truth is that many of these recent spree shootings were a result of a relationship gone bad, which also seems to be the case for the one in NC.
However, If I ever put a bullet through my hand, I swear it’s an accident.
Does that clarify?
It only clarifies that you’re an idiot.
Sir Richard Pump-A-Loaf
The story of a demented bread-boffer
“It only clarifies that you’re an idiot.”
Be thankful I didn’t outline it in a math equation :^P
“many are the result of a relationship gone bad”
Well, you’re right. Although often the “relationship” is simply being an employer, boss or co-worker of a gun lovin’ loony co-worker or long ex-coworker.
Or a stranger walking down the street with his family. Or a neigbor of a relative of the white male gun nut.
Details are still sketchy on yesterday’s NC gun rampage. There the “relationship” seems to be the victims were all old people who resided at the nursing home the lunatic gunman’s ex-wife worked at.
In other words, not much of a “relationship” with the nut-du-jour at all, and not one they could avoid in any event.
Haven’t read about the Santa Clara incident yet, DJ. But now you get to speak for the dead as to what “use” can be made of their senseless deaths? Who awarded that power to you again?
Parthian,
You’re doing a great job of out-loonying MB.
I wonder if your rants play well to those North-Minneopolitans that feel the need to sleep in their bathtubs to avoid the stray bullets fired by white conservative males.
Parthian,
Your rants are remiscent of those people in my locality that blame each and every crime on the “invasion” of illegal aliens.
All they require is a Hispanic sounding name.
Perhaps you should be the one with the name 2D, since you’re just a mirror image of D2.
“Although often the “relationship†is simply being an employer, boss or co-worker of a gun lovin’ loony co-worker or long ex-coworker.”
What does that have to do with politics?
“Or a stranger walking down the street with his family. Or a neigbor of a relative of the white male gun nut.”
Not in South Central LA. Or Oakland. Or any other city plagued with inner city gang violence. Not too many conservative gun loving white males hang out in Compton.
“Or a stranger walking down the street with his family.”
Like Michael Zebuhr? The kid shot in the head walking down the street with his mother in Mpls? Oh on second thought he wasnt shot by a gun lovin’ conservative freak.
This whole picture you’re painting of yourself is very interesting. Im having a lot of fun applying the psych 101 I never took to your posts.
It doesn’t surprise me to see that you think you are “applying” knowledge that you never learned to your “analysis”, deacon. Watching you continue your intentional misreading is also quite indicative of a sophist mentality. And exceptionally poor reading comprehension.
Anyway, while it’s all well and good for you guys to raise all forms of gun violence in Gun-soaked Nation, I was talking about a very specific phenomenom, the mass murder rampage/spree by a lone gunman. Those are the incidents that have been in the news recently.
But carry on with your mindless chatter.
“Watching you continue your intentional misreading is also quite indicative of a sophist mentality.”
You crack me up Parthian. Bottom line is youre not able to back up your stupid theory about a new white conservative male serial killing happening each week.
I am having fun though with trying to piece together what kind of person you are. Ill keep it to myself now for the time being.
“And exceptionally poor reading comprehension.”
Really?
“Or a stranger walking down the street with his family.”
Like I said, it’s not the lone white male conservative shooting people walking down the street all the time. Some times its gang related.
” I was talking about a very specific phenomenom, the mass murder rampage/spree by a lone gunman.”
So far Ive seen one example from you on this phenomenon and it wasnt politically motivated like you tried to make it. If Im having trouble comprehending your point its because your point is poorly constructed. Work on it and get back to me.
Remember the Beltway Sniper?
“I was talking about a very specific phenomenom, the mass murder rampage/spree by a lone gunman.”
You were talking about the mass murder rampage/spree by a lone, gunmen with wild speculation that they’re all white, male conservatives that you handily pulled out of your ass.
You’re no different than D2.
†I was talking about a very specific phenomenom, the mass murder rampage/spree by a lone gunman.â€
Was that kid from Virginia Tech a white male conservative? Remind Parthian….
“You were talking about the mass murder rampage/spree by a lone, gunmen with wild speculation that they’re all white, male conservatives that you handily pulled out of your ass.”
Not to mention his insinuation is that they were looking to kill liberals and that MB was trying to stir people like this up. Oh and that this happens on a weekly basis and by someone new.
Watching you continue your intentional misrepresentation of the facts is also quite indicative of the juvenile mentality of a partisan.
This context you refuse to provide is being filled. I’ve got a reeeeeeal good idea of what type of person you are. I bet I’m pretty close to being on the mark.
MILTON, Massachusetts — A man on a rampage fatally stabbed his 17-year-old sister, decapitated his 5-year-old sister in front of a police officer and then turned toward his 9-year-old sister with a knife in his hand before officers shot him dead in what their chief described as “a killing field.”
No gun, a non-white male, no idea what his political leanings were.
“You’re no different than D2.”
Why all the negativity Vomit?
“Was that kid from Virginia Tech a white male conservative? Remind Parthian…. ”
Oh, and there was also that Native American kid up on Red Earth Res, was it? With the devil’s horns hairdo who shot up his school. I mean really, Parth, you’re making it too easy. I’d say you’ve painted yourself into a rhetorical corner. Like Ms. Bachmann did with her inveighing against earmarks.
“Why all the negativity Vomit?”
I’m positive both you and Parthian are cut from the same cloth.
Both of you like to assign blame for all the nation’s problems on a convenient scapegoat.
DAR, Did you happen to see the original Jayhawks line up is getting back together for the Basilica Block Party?
Oh and did you catch Prince on Leno? Michael Bland played with him on Thursday’s show.
“I’d say you’ve painted yourself into a rhetorical corner.”
Pretty easy to do when you live your life around political bias. Hyperbole and exaggeration, the calling cards of anyone on one side of either political extreme.
St. Paul police finally get tough with dangerous latino gangs:
This is one example of why we need to do away with the Anchor Baby loophole. These thugs need to be deported, but unfortunately some of these guys were born here to illegal aliens parents and therefore can’t be deported.
“Both of you like to assign blame for all the nation’s problems on a convenient scapegoat.”
Liberals are to blame for most of America’s problems.
D2, YOU are America’s problem. Its too bad you were born here, we cant deport you.
“Both of you like to assign blame for all the nation’s problems on a convenient scapegoat.â€
Liberals are to blame for most of America’s problems.
Sheesh, you could of said “prove it” and made me do the work.
“Violation of the proposed injunction would be a misdemeanor.”
Yeah that ‘oughta stop the gangs.
‘Yo ese, we cant go down the Cinco De Mayo parade. We might get a ticket.’
If they werent affraid last year to pull a drive by at the parade, how is a misdemeanor going to stop them this year?
“Liberals are to blame for most of America’s problems.”
OK then, prove this statement is innacurate.
Now vomit is off on a frolic of his own, searching for serial murders without firearms, not exactly the subject at hand, but no matter.
“so far I’ve seen one example from you of this phenomenon”
I’ve discussed three recent gun rampages (Adkisson, AL and NC). One was politically motivated by a known white male conservative. One was a known white male gun nut. One we are learning the facts on.
“The context…is being filled”.
Solely in your imagination, which you’ll be convinced is accurate. And we wonder how the financial meltdown could have happened with our sober, objective bankers!
Anyway, I’ll predict we’ll very likely have lots more data on these firearms sprees in the coming years, as they seem to be increasing in frequency.
This whole illegal immigration problem is a good example of liberalism screwing up the country. We need to do a much better job of controlling out borders, but liberal democrats and liberal RINO republicans seem to prefer amnesty for illegals.
“Anyway, I’ll predict we’ll very likely have lots more data on these firearms sprees in the coming years, as they seem to be increasing in frequency.”
This was your point, or is this what youre trying to spin it into now? You’re point was earlier:
“As every week passes, we have another serial killing by a new gun totin’ enraged white male lunatic. (Um this is inaccurate) My suspicion is that (like Adkisson) they would all describe themselves as “conservativeâ€, were they still alive to ask (You have no way of knowing this). And they seem to be mostly exploding in rural or non-urban areas (gun violence only in rural areas Did you hear about the guy who just killed 4 cops in Oakland)”
This statement is not only inaccurate, its the calling card of a liberal conspiracy theorist. You’re whole point seems to be that these men are out there and that MB is a traitor because she is tryinig to stir them up on purpose. You’re a moron Parthian.
“Solely in your imagination, which you’ll be convinced is accurate. ”
Oh Im sure of it.
” And we wonder how the financial meltdown could have happened with our sober, objective bankers!”
Sorry Pal, I didnt do that type of banking. But at least I have the stones to be honest about who I am and what I do. You play around in the shadows and dotn provide details because, you’re either full of sh:t or a big pu55y.
“Now vomit is off on a frolic of his own, searching for serial murders without firearms, not exactly the subject at hand, but no matter.”
The original subject at hand was your and others’ accusations that that conservative rhetoric is resulting in
in these killing sprees, which you twisted into white conservative males with guns.
Deacon Blew,
You go girl!
I think we would be a lot safer if more conservatives had conceal carry permits.
What do you have against while males anyway Comrade Partisan?
“I think we would be a lot safer if more conservatives had conceal carry permits.”
I’m sure you would Dare2. myself,
I would not feel safer knowing that more people around me had guns. Not that I’m worried I’d piss off one of the gun-toters, more like I’d worry that a bunch of wannabe cowboys who can’t even shoot straight would start blasting at the first sign of trouble and create collateral damage.
But to my knowledge there’s only been one innocent person killed (murdered, actually) by a Conceal & Carry permit holder. That was a bouncer at Nye’s who was shot by a belligerent drunk who was proud proud proud to be totin’ his gun. We sure don’t need more of that.
While there hasn’t exactly been a crime wave by legal gun carriers since they pssed that C&C law in Minny, I haven’t heard of any crimes being foiled by them, either.
dubble_a_ron,
I visited Israel a few years ago, and you wouldn’t believe how many citizens were armed. I’ve never seen so many guns!. They need to do this because of the dangerous Muslim terrorists living among them. As far as I know, there isn’t a problem with Israeli citizens getting carried away with their right, and in Minnesota the liberals have been proven wrong in their claim that conceal carry will return us to the days of Old West with shootouts etc. The people causing trouble with firearms are the types who wouldn’t qualify for a conceal carry permit in the first place.
“That was a bouncer at Nye’s who was shot by a belligerent drunk who was proud proud proud to be totin’ his gun.”
One he was drunk he was no longer legal in carrying a firearm. The police should have been called as soon as the gun was spotted. I guess there will always be rare cases like this, but I really believe that conceal carry has more benefits than drawbacks, and it will save innocent lives.
Haven’t read about the Santa Clara incident yet, DJ. But now you get to speak for the dead as to what “use†can be made of their senseless deaths? Who awarded that power to you again?
Interesting. Parthian’s idea of a perfect day is turning on the news and seeing that Rush Limbaugh snapped and killed 245 people while screaming, “I hate Democrats!!” before the police shot him 54 times and he died a slow painful death.
It would be the greatest day Parthian has ever experienced.
“a lot safer if more conservatives had conceal carry permits”
2D, I’m sure you’ll be pleased to know that the great state of Tex-*ss is currently debating a bill (supported by the NRA of course) to allow college students to carry guns on campus. This will “solve” the Va Tech massacre problem of course.
Amazingly, campus police organizations, college adminstrators and the lib’rul perfessors OPPOSE this common sense conservative measure!! Can you believe it?
Children are killed by strangers/family members with guns probably every day in this country. And what do the nation’s law and order “conservatives” prescribe as the obvious best solution to the carnage? More guns, of course!
What a country.
Angie Harmon: I’m Not Racist Because I Disagree With Obama
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,511470,00.html
Hang in there Angie! I get the same crap from liberals on Biq Question.
DJ–LOL. Very funny.
D2 with a concealed weapon … I think he already has one … it’s called an incompetent mind.
Please don’t elaborate on him having a weapon .. that’s just too scary.
“You’re doing what D2 does so well. Blaming things on the political side you detest and using assumptions and exagerations to make your points.”
Exactly.
Too much extremism surrounds common sense and doesn’t allow its presence any longer.
Why do we let all these morons control the media?
I’m a firm believer that if we could all just do one toke of some really good Ganj daily everything would be alright.
Imagine .. we all get to work and take a hit off the hooka .. grab a cup of java and get to the business of working.
D2 and Part sharing a cube …
Perfect.
“Tex-*ss is currently debating a bill (supported by the NRA of course) to allow college students to carry guns on campus.
It’s about time. We need more responsible people to be armed and it will save innocent lives.
“Children are killed by strangers/family members with guns probably every day in this country.”
Not by conceal carry gun owners. they save lives.
And Partisan, guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O’Donnell fat.
“It’s about time. We need more responsible people to be armed and it will save innocent lives.”
Okay D2 .. define ‘responsible people’ please.
And then .. tell me how many college kids would be considered ‘responsible’.
And don’t try your rant about liberal blah, blah, blah ..
..try presenting an intelligent argument vs. the rhetoric.
Greg,
If someone has a clean record and goes through the proper training, I think they should be allowed to protect themselves with a conceal carry permit. Our soldiers are responsible enough to carry a firearm at the age of 18, and I’m sure there are plenty of responsible conservative college students who are the same. Again, this could save lives.
Goodnight all!
“If someone has a clean record and goes through the proper training, I think they should be allowed to protect themselves with a conceal carry permit.”
I’d agree with a ‘clean’ record and proper training .. but what about the rest of the background?
Would the clean background include a medical evaluation?
Do you think that college kids should be carrying weapons at parties etc.?
Why should they carry on campus? What are the stats on deaths on campuses in the last 2 decades?
Can you give me an expected outcome? Are there stats available to provide that?
“and I’m sure there are plenty of responsible conservative college students who are the same”
So you’re saying that only conservative students are responsible?
Show me. Give me proof.
Show me.
×œ×”×§×™× says:
March 30th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Parthian,
You’re doing a great job of out-loonying MB.
I wonder if your rants play well to those North-Minneopolitans that feel the need to sleep in their bathtubs to avoid the stray bullets fired by white conservative males.
Now this is one funny comment. )
I also think Parthian is way, way out there. He really does makes Bachmann look like Miss America.
Has parthian ever had a worse blogging day than today’s laughable efforts?
And what is his point? The big weekly shootout?
Even if we accept his premise–IF—that there is a 10 victim killing every week.
Or 520 per year….is my math good, any Minneapolis North grads out there?
Isnt that like 3% of all murders annually in America (16,000)? So how does that change my point that 60-80% of murders occur in the BLUE ZONES?
And arent mass killings….
One is left with Parth to wonder:
1. Is he a really” a smart person making really stupid points? And then, why?
2. He is just: really stupid.
I favor the former, but that is why the OT’s, Bills, etc bailed. It is a waste of time to debate people who claim the moon is made of green cheese.
And good night D2.
I also have fun planned for the rest of tonight.
6DJ states: “Why waste time arguing with the dan’s, parth’s, Gregs, etc when they are so blind to the obvious hypocrisy that now exists?”
Don’t even bother arguing with them 6DJ. Present them with facts and watch them scatter. They are just like cockroaches after you turn the light on. They run back to the darkness.
They have no response when The One nominates an AIG board member onto his team. They have no response when you point out the fact that this economic crisis was caused by the government. Wait, that was a bit strong. They do have a response, they resort to the darkness of name-calling.
Obama campaign and ACORN interactions may have violated federal election law. The liberal newspapers should be ashamed.
CNC talks of facts? I’ve yet to see you post a single fact. Much, much rhetoric or opinion from selective sources.
The morons on both extremes of the spectrum are what causes our country to faulter .. they eliminate reasoning, common sense, and reality by clinging simply to an ideology.
The truly sad part is that neither side of the extreme has ever truly given anything for this country other than their big mouths pretending to stroke patriotism.
What a bunch of morons.
but I really believe that conceal carry has more benefits than drawbacks, and it will save innocent lives.
As long as the bad guys don’t draw their weapon on you first, and assuming you’re a good enough shot not to miss the bad guys in your return volley.
Or to hit bystanders.
I wonder if just having a sticker on your doors saying ‘Im a gun owner’ would be as effective as actually owning the gun?
Also, whats the point of having a gun for home defense if its not kept loaded and in reach? How is an unloaded locked up pistol going to help you when someone breaks into your house?
“OK then, prove this statement is innacurate.”
Give a list of those problems that you think are caused by liberals, and I’ll address them.
Home security is NOT just having a weapon. Lighting, locks, alarms, etc. are a far better deterrent than most people think. Most of the people trying to break into your home are cowards and if there’s even a slight risk they’re not going to do it.
The weapon should be a last resort and if treated as such would give you time to unlock, load and chamber.
Just me, but as far as public conceal/carry .. I’m not comfortable with the vast majority of those that practice the right. When it comes down to it, they’d choke. Again, NOT everyone, but the vast majority.
Nobody has shown me ANY stats or proof that conceal/carry works .. nobody. Just alot of rhetoric and to be fair, that’s from both sides.
“As long as the bad guys don’t draw their weapon on you first, and assuming you’re a good enough shot not to miss the bad guys in your return volley.”
Correct, and the same rule applies to civilians, police, soldiers, fighter pilots, and anyone else, provided one is in a Hollywood style, 15 paces at high noon situation.
Real life situations usually play out differently.
“they resort to the darkness of namecalling”
Cog N Cretin, if demonic libs like me didn’t boot you in the *ss with namecalling, then there would be no reason whatever even to respond to your lame posts, like your feigned outrage over Obama appointing Reagan’s chief economic advisor or your absurd ignorance about the cause of the meltdown.
Year after year, the sum total of your contribution to BQ has merely been the conserva-sh*t slogan-o’-the-day: ACORN funding! Obama stock market! Obama budget! AIG director!! etc, etc, ad infinitum…
You are an inconsequential piece of conservative flotsam carried hither and yon by the vagaries of your Noise Machine, with every slogan to be forgotten forever when the Konservative Kennelmasters ring a new bell for their obedient dogbrains to slobber over. You are an intellectual disgrace as a citizen and human being, blind to massive failure and disaster.
So be thankful for whatever table scraps get at BQ, namecalling or not. Now run off and get your next bucket of conservative water to carry up the mountain, singing the latest lying tune of your elite masters—who are dying of laughter as they watch idiots like you take everything they write hook, line and sinker.
“Home security is NOT just having a weapon. Lighting, locks, alarms, etc. are a far better deterrent than most people think. Most of the people trying to break into your home are cowards and if there’s even a slight risk they’re not going to do it.”
“The weapon should be a last resort and if treated as such would give you time to unlock, load and chamber.”
Very well said, firearms should be the last line of defense, except I strongly doubt I would have enough time to fumble with a gun lock, then try and load a gun while someone is bearing down on you. Again, there’s no cut and dry rule here, each person’s situation is different.
“Nobody has shown me ANY stats or proof that conceal/carry works .. nobody.”
I guess that depends on what you mean by “works”. I don’t think it would have any significant on the crime rate, but that shouldn’t be its purpose. It’s about personal protection.
They have no response when you point out the fact that this economic crisis was caused by the government.
In the same way as if the government repealed the laws against robbery, then the government would be responsible for an increase in thefts.
One final thing, Preacher Cash. Compare your buddy 6DJ’s efforts on this thread with yours.
BQ puts up another thread on the lunacies of Kooky Michele. Because she’s his Darlin’ Michele, 6DJ wades in to defend her–a thankless task, with very limited ammo.
But he advances several original and even imaginative arguments that merit being dismantled, even if they are meritless. And he gets to chuckle over my becoming embroiled with the self described “moderate” contingent as he returns to survey the field.
So, a pretty creditable thread for 6DJ. Compare that to your miserable performance CNC—”AIG Director!!”—and you can why you are treated like a sloganeering conservative helot and cursed as such.
I wonder if just having a sticker on your doors saying ‘Im a gun owner’ would be as effective as actually owning the gun?
I used to have a door security style sticker that read PROTECTED BY SMITH & WESSON. Eight years and no break ins.
Greg, the national academy of sciences (I think) did a study of the “conceal carry” movement and its claimed crime-fighting “benefits” and found no data to support any effect on crime.
Now to be fair they also did not find an increase in mayhem resulting from it, as I recall. I certainly thought there would be at the time conceal carry was passed. Either it hasn’t happened (and I was wrong) or the data isn’t being collected.
What do you think about whether conceal carry increases mayhem?
““Or a stranger walking down the street with his family. Or a neigbor of a relative of the white male gun nut.—
Triple or greater homicide in at least one major us city a day. And the color described in the above statement is darker.
I don’t know this to be fact but I would be willing to make a huge bet that I’m close.
Lets try to be more “open minded” when we discuss issues here.
“Greg, the national academy of sciences (I think) did a study of the “conceal carry†movement and its claimed crime-fighting “benefits†and found no data to support any effect on crime.”
So fact I believe only one dude with conceal carry has been arrested in Minnesota and that was because he shot his car.
Now listen Dipstick. Where is the Wild West that the “anti-conceal carry” groups was saying was going to happen.
Gezz hate to get into the name-calling so early but Parthian but you’re a mindless idiot. You sure do have all the phrases down. If I didn’t know better I would think you where brainwashed like those Sunday Morning Preachers dudes.
” guess that depends on what you mean by “worksâ€. I don’t think it would have any significant on the crime rate, but that shouldn’t be its purpose. It’s about personal protection. ”
Personal protection .. now that’s key.
I’m very much in favor of private citizens being able to carry, but I am also convinced we need to look more closely at the requirements. There are people that I know who should NOT be carrying and are.
Why people carry is what bothers me. PERSONAL protection is understandable, but for those like D2 who believe they’re out to deter crime and consistently refer to an overal crime deterent I am incredibly suspect.
I seriously don’t want to be in the same room as an extremist that is armed ..
again, we have too many yahoo’s on both sides screaming about rights and not letting common sense and reality find it’s place in the discussion.
“So fact I believe only one dude with conceal carry has been arrested in Minnesota and that was because he shot his car.”
The Nye’s Bar and Polonaise room killer was arrested too.
In news that was largely bypassed yesterday, Obama signed a historic new public lands bill which designated over 2 million additional acres of federal land as wilderness, the highest protected designation.
Hooverite House Repubs overwhelmingly voted against preserving the environment and wilderness areas. Of course.
On the same day, Obama announced the reversal of an appalling Bushco regulation which allowed agencies to bypass scientists and science in determining whether gub’mint actions would harm endangered wildlife. The goal of this Bushco regulation was to gut the Endangered Species Act via the backdoor and it has been torpedoed.
So this is massive change, and some huge victories for embattled wildlife and the environment, after 8 years of trashing and destruction by Bushco. But Obama’s Doin’ Too Much! ™
“Polonaise room killer”
The “Green Booger River Strangler Smiley Face” Killer
“Hooverite”
Made that up yourself did Ya??? I get hits on that. What a brainwashed piece of Mimicking garbage you are parthian.
Get your own life.
“embattled wildlife”
Caused by to much dead brush laying around that Fruitcakes like you won’t let people go in and take out. You left that part out. Thats “bamaCo” and company
Everything Zen
Everything Zen
I don’t think so
“So this is massive change, and some huge victories for embattled wildlife and the environment”
Yet, the left still looks at me with scorn when I say “who cares if mountain lions eat the occasional jogger, we can afford to have our herds thinned.”
Caused by to much dead brush laying around that Fruitcakes like you won’t let people go in and take out.
California Wildfire Protection on line 2 for Tiny.
“mountain lions”
Somehow with you it always gets back to a “Lion” eating somebody or something. Remember you’re the “Cross Guys” the Romans where the “Lion Guys”.
Hey whats the made up Jewish holiday that falls on Easter so you guys don’t feel all guilty and stuff.
“Yet, the left still looks at me with scorn when I say “who cares if mountain lions eat the occasional jogger, we can afford to have our herds thinned.â€
That’s funny.
They’re gorgeous animals.
“Hey whats the made up Jewish holiday that falls on Easter so you guys don’t feel all guilty and stuff.”
Passover, where Charlton Heston freed us from the radical Muslims in Egypt, then got us lost.
It was invented sometime after Easter and before GPS.
“But Obama’s Doin’ Too Much!”
Do it right the first time.
Here is something else the govt thinks is a priority while the economy burns.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/03/senate-plans-to.html
It comes down to doing the easy sh:t first so you look busy.
“Passover, where Charlton Heston freed us from the radical Muslims in Egypt, then got us lost.”
Ever hear that joke about looking for the dropped quarter in the desert and thats why Mosses was lost for 40 years?
“It was invented sometime after Easter and before GPS.”
I suppose you guys needed a diversion of your own so you wouldn’t have to deal with all the guilt.
I mean killing gods kid and all that. That’s a big burden to have to drag around century after century, day after day.
And this wasn’t no mamsie pasny lethal injection where talkin’ about either.
Personally if I was member of Tribe this would worry me. The payback part. Golfing in the Rain
“Ever hear that joke about looking for the dropped quarter in the desert and thats why Mosses was lost for 40 years?”
I can think of a couple of Kosher style restaurants near me where you can drop a quarter, and it will never hit the ground.
“Personally if I was member of Tribe this would worry me.”
No it wouldnt. You’d have to believe he WAS the son of god to be worried. Which they dont and is why they arent worried.
I mean killing gods kid and all that. That’s a big burden to have to drag around century after century, day after day.
It was the perfect crime.
The eyewitesses said, “guys with big noses did it”, and all we had to do was point to the Romans.
Why should I feel guilty, when he didn’t stay dead?
Anyone hear that Michael Vick told the bankruptcy judge thathe expects to make $10 million a year once he gets back into the NFL? Think he might feel a little entitled? I wouldnt pay him the league minimum to be a holder on field goals.
I mean killing gods kid and all that.
I think that was the Romans you’re talking about.
And hate to break this to you, but God’s Kid was Jewish.
“And hate to break this to you, but God’s Kid was Jewish.”
Yeah, if you believe all that mumbo jumbo.
Now us Swedish Christians we can sleep at night. Sure we kicked some @ss around as Vikings and then Sweden tried to invade Denmark. But other then that.
“And hate to break this to you, but God’s Kid was Jewish.”
Who through the guy under the bus(Cart)?
“Who through the guy under the bus(Cart)? ”
And for what $Money$. How typical is THAT.
Hey thanks to Obama we can have this frank open discussion.
“Yeah, if you believe all that mumbo jumbo.â€
Mark lighten up we’re takin’ shots at the Jewish guy here.
Weren’t the Jewish people the first people to use coal? Everybody was like “No No No” but they went ahead anyway.
and Crack!
“The eyewitesses said, “guys with big noses did itâ€, and all we had to do was point to the Romans.”
Let me add that this worked again in the 1930′s.
Meyer Lansky died of old age in Miami Beach.
But Hyman Roth didnt have the same luck.
“Weren’t the Jewish people the first people to use coal?”
The oil burned for 8 days huh? Yeah right.
“NEW YORK (Fortune) — First there were “blood diamonds,” the gems that fueled conflict and human rights abuses in Liberia and Sierra Leone. Then there was “conflict cocoa,” the chocolate source that’s harvested by children and funds civil war in Ivory Coast. Now concern is rising about the minerals that go into common consumer electronics. Could that be a BloodBerry or a Conflict Cell in your pocket?”
Oh god. Lets hope my piece of sh:t samsung isnt on the list.
Anyone else hear that the guy who wrote the “Hokey Pokey” song passed away recently?
Rumor has it that the family had trouble getting his body into the casket.
They put his left leg in and then the problems started.
“The high-profile policy duel between Tim Geithner and Paul Krugman came to a head on Sunday.”
Boy which side to take on this one. I have to go with “Timmy”
“They put his left leg in and then the problems started.”
Blind guys says as he walks past the Fish Market.
“”They put his left leg in and then the problems started.”"
I get it!
Wsa anyone else amused by the SPPPD headline yesterday “Fargo’s Prayers are Answered”. My first thought was “prove it”. And which religion’s higher power did the answering? I thought it was a pretty weird headline.
Wsa anyone else amused by the SPPPD headline yesterday “Fargo’s Prayers are Answeredâ€
They were praying for flooding?
If there was a God, why would god send a flood just so you could pray to god to make the flood go away? Seems like a waste of time.
“I’ve begun worshipping the Sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the Sun. It’s there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, a lovely day. There’s no mystery, no one asks for money, I don’t have to dress up, and there’s no boring pageantry. And interestingly enough, I have found that the prayers I offer to the sun and the prayers I formerly offered to God are all answered at about the same 50-percent rate.”
– George Carlin
Well, George must have been aware that numerous humans had a thriving Sun worship set-up for millenia.
We just threw it away for some dubious new-fangled models, all of which required more substantial financing and R&D.
Sort of like the railroads.
“Well, George must have been aware that numerous humans had a thriving Sun worship set-up for millenia.”
How about Joe Pesci? how long have people been worshiping him?
“You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Joe Pesci. Two reasons; first of all, I think he’s a good actor. Okay. To me, that counts. Second; he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn’t fvck around. Doesn’t fvck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with. For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog. Joe Pesci straightened that c0ck-sucker out with one visit. I noticed that of all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers that I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50 percent rate. Half the time I get what I want. Half the time I don’t. Same as God 50-50. Same as the four leaf clover, the horse shoe, the rabbit’s foot, and the wishing well. Same as the mojo man. Same as the voodoo lady who tells your fortune by squeezing the goat’s testicles. It’s all the same; 50-50. So just pick your superstitions, sit back, make a wish and enjoy yourself.”
- George Carlin
You got me there…..
I’m going to buy a car.
Cash N. Carey states: “They have no response when The One nominates an AIG board member onto his team. They have no response when you point out the fact that this economic crisis was caused by the government. Wait, that was a bit strong. They do have a response, they resort to the darkness of name-calling. ”
And I am right again. The libs are back to name-calling.
And yet another HHS nominee that has tax problems. Don’t libs believe in paying their taxes? I thought one of their candidates called paying taxes “patriotic”. Where is their duty to their country?
“Kathleen Sebelius, President Obama’s nominee to become Health and Human Services secretary, said in a letter obtained by the Associated Press that she made “unintentional errors†on her taxes and has corrected her returns from three different years.”
“Don’t libs believe in paying their taxes?”
I think the real problem is these people (both parties) that get jobs in Washington aren’t your lunch box guys. They’re all so damn rich they don’t have a clue where their money is coming from. Imagine that?
“Fargo’s Prayers are Answeredâ€. My first thought was “prove itâ€. And which religion’s higher power did the answering? ”
Hold all calls. The “idiot of the year” award winner has just been found.
Geeezus, what a moron.
I’m going to buy a car.
The green Malibu isn’t running so well?
“And I am right again. The libs are back to name-calling.”
I’m not a lib but I’m pretty confident that you and your lover D2 are morons…but that’s not really name-calling.
That’s just a fact.
Tiny’s right. They get to a certain point and I’m not sure they even know what goes on with their money … which leads to an even more sad commentary.
It’s time for folks to stop masturbating to hannity, olberman, maddow, O’reilly , etc. ..
You have a brain .. use it. That crew is for laughing at or throwing boxes of dog sh|t towards.
“The green Malibu isn’t running so well? ”
There’s going to be some very, very good deals from GM and Chrysler.
That new malibu get’s over 30mpg now.
“The green Malibu isn’t running so well? â€
There’s going to be some very, very good deals from GM and Chrysler.”
Tiny, I’m thinking Hummer.
It will appeal to your liberal side by saving mankind from the next Ice Age.
It will appeal to your conservative side by most likely being the first government mandated collectors item.
“The Nye’s Bar and Polonaise room killer was arrested too.”
Not before inhibiting the karaoke singing ambience at Nye’s. Mission accomplished.
“If there was a God, why would god send a flood just so you could pray to god to make the flood go away? Seems like a waste of time.”
It’s the only alternative to trying to do something about global climate change. I know, if there’s two or three 100 years floods inside of twenty years it’s just a fluke. Just means the next couple of centuries will be fairly uneventful.
Everybody complains about the weather but nobody ever does anything about it. -MT
Helpless, helpless, helpless…NY
“I know, if there’s two or three 100 years floods inside of twenty years it’s just a fluke.”
No, it means the statistical model is wrong.
Imagine that.
Senate recount trial: In a remarkably unexpected twist; judges’ rule Coleman is the winner
And I am right again. The libs are back to name-calling.
Just because it’s an ad hominem doesn’t mean you’re not a moron.
“There’s going to be some very, very good deals from GM and Chrysler.”
I just picked up a refinance from 5.75 to 4.75. Got a “little” cash( still have a ton of equity could have gotten more money but I’M PRUDENT), keep the mortgage at 500. Was going to use some to fix a retaining wall, save about half and buy me a toy. A riding lawn mower.
But there is a part of me that really is thinking about doing the car thing. The Malibu is paid off running good but shes 9 years old. So maybe I should. But I hate doing it but hate to miss out.
Credit Score of 820 by the way. You don’t get that kind of credit score being a dumb@ss. But still taking on another debit is something you shouldn’t take lightly.
Maybe Obama will be on the lot and he can swing me a better deal even if I didn’t vote for him.
“It’s the only alternative to trying to do something about global climate change….”
Unless the Sun’s recent period of inactivity following the 2004 minimum is a beginning of an unforseen trend. Then we might be searching for new ways to pump CO2 in the atmosphere.
Then we might be searching for new ways to pump CO2 in the atmosphere.
No need to. The oceans have just about reached the limits of how much CO2 they can absorb.
“No need to. The oceans have just about reached the limits of how much CO2 they can absorb.”
Poppyc@ck!
April 1, some snow on the ground here in Buffalo and the temps..oh about 15-20 degrees BELOW normal. And you’re going to try to BS me today about Global Warming.
Thats Ballsy Dan.
“The oceans have just about reached the limits of how much CO2 they can absorb.”
You are aware that greenhouse gas emissions and absorption are continuous cycles? The oceans are not CO2 sponges.
It should also explain why we spend 250 million+ dollars trying to launch satellites to monitor these things.
“I just picked up a refinance from 5.75 to 4.75. Got a “little†cash( still have a ton of equity could have gotten more money but I’M PRUDENT), keep the mortgage at 500. Was going to use some to fix a retaining wall, save about half and buy me a toy. A riding lawn mower.”
This is how its starts. First its a riding lawn mower. Then its a swimming pool and an RV. Ive seen it before. Pretty soon we’ve got more financial deregulation to keep the party going.
“The oceans have just about reached the limits of how much CO2 they can absorb.”
I just heard we have only explored a small fraction of the ocean on the Science Channel. Does all the CO2 sit at the top of the ocean?
“This is how its starts. First its a riding lawn mower. Then its a swimming pool and an RV.”
I know thats why I only got 15,000. Still have about 80 in equity. Understand I made them wait until I thought about it for awhile. And YES I thought about more more more more.
But understand Tiny has bought no toys or nothing so he’s thinking he “deserves” a riding lawn mower. And that took about a week of talking myself into it. Now the hard part is actually getting myself to buy one.
And Mark this deal last November has me thinking. I’ve become this scrooge and its save save save. Don’t buy anything wait for that rainy when I might need it. Really I could drop dead tomorrow. So I think I should “lighten up ” a bit. Stop thinking about trying to save the whole thing for my kid and stuff and live a little.
Buying a riding lawn mower I guess in Tinys book is “Living a little”
You are aware that greenhouse gas emissions and absorption are continuous cycles? The oceans are not CO2 sponges.
If I was smarter I’m sure I could find a mathematical equation to show how misinformed you are.
Scientists have issued a new warning about climate change after discovering a sudden and dramatic collapse in the amount of carbon emissions absorbed by the Sea of Japan.
The shift has alarmed experts, who blame global warming.
The world’s oceans soak up about 11bn tonnes of human carbon dioxide pollution each year, about a quarter of all produced, and even a slight weakening of this natural process would leave significantly more CO2 in the atmosphere. That would require countries to adopt much stricter emissions targets to prevent dangerous rises in temperature.
Kitack Lee, an associate professor at Pohang University of Science and Technology, who led the research, says the discovery is the “very first observation that directly relates ocean CO2 uptake change to ocean warming”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/12/sea-co2-climate-japan-environment
The Southern Ocean Is Approaching Its Limit for Carbon Absorption
Recent climate change has weakened one of the earth’s most important natural carbon “sinks”, according to a four-year international study published today.An increase in winds over the southern ocean, caused by man-made global warming and ozone depletion, has led to a release of stored carbon dioxide from the ocean into the atmosphere and is preventing further absorption of the greenhouse gas.
The study was undertaken by the University of East Anglia, British Antarctic Survey and the Max-Planck Institute for Biogeochemistry in Germany and is published in the online edition of the journal Science. It suggests stabilising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere will be even more difficult than previously believed.
http://www.rachel.org/en/node/222
The oceans influence the climate by absorbing and storing carbon dioxide. Climate change is caused by the accumulation of man-made carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The rate of accumulation depends on how much CO2 mankind emits and how much of this excess CO2 is absorbed by plants and soil or is transported down into the ocean depths by plankton (microscopic plants and animals). Scientists believe that the oceans currently absorb 30-50% of the CO2 produced by the burning of fossil fuel. If they did not soak up any CO2, atmospheric CO2 levels would be much higher than the current level of 355 parts per million by volume (ppmv) – probably around 500-600 ppmv.
http://www.gdrc.org/oceans/fsheet-02.html
The scientists have discovered that the warmer atmospheric temperatures have affected a process called ‘ventilation’. This is the way seawater flows and mixes and drags absorbed CO2 from surface waters to the depths.
They compared the dissolved CO2 in the seawater with similar samples collected in 1992 and 1999. The results showed the amount of CO2 absorbed during 1999 to 2007 was half the level recorded from 1992 to 1999.
Crucially, the study revealed that ocean mixing, a process required to deposit carbon in deep water, where it is more likely to stay, appears to have significantly weakened.
And while many believe that the oceans are not going to stop absorbing CO2, even reducing the uptake a small amount, will have its affects across the globe. It becomes a vicious circle. The more CO2 in the atmosphere the warmer it gets, the warmer is gets the harder it is for oceans to absorb CO2, the less the oceans absorb CO2 the more CO2 in the atmosphere, starting the circle over again.
…
New data suggests that the ocean acidity levels are raising 10 times faster than previously thought.
Professor Timothy Wootton from the department of ecology and evolution, University of Chicago, in Illinois, says such dramatic results were unexpected as it was thought that the huge ocean systems had the ability to absorb large quantities of CO2.
“It’s been thought pH in the open oceans is well buffered, so it’s surprising to see these fluctuations,†he said.
The findings showed that CO2 had lowered the water pH over time, demonstrating a year-on-year increase in acidity.
“Nina Fedoroff told the BBC One Planet programme that humans had exceeded the Earth’s “limits of sustainability”.â€
Honest to god I can see these people enforcing a Soylent Green policy and justifying it using the Environment as a defense.
Little Environmental religious like Fruitcakes.(Like Dan. Look how fast he went to his “little Bible”. So it is written)
Dan thats all nonsense. I can’t prove or disprove that garbage. Tell me how the climate has changed here. ONE EXAMPLE
“So I think I should “lighten up †a bit.”
If you are saving at least 10% of your AGI and you have no unsecured debt, go ahead. You need to have a life.
“Nina Fedoroff told the BBC One Planet programme that humans had exceeded the Earth’s “limits of sustainabilityâ€.â€
Anyone who believes humans are currently replenishing resources as fast as we’re depleting them raise your hand.
Anyone?
“Buying a riding lawn mower I guess in Tinys book is “Living a little—
Ive got my eye on a new picnic table from Target. The one from Menards killed my grass from all the crap they treated the wood with. Ive got that daughter coming in 3 weeks and that table isnt safe to eat off of.
Dan thats all nonsense. I can’t prove or disprove that garbage.
That doesn’t mean it’s nonsense or garbage. It means you don’t understand it. That’s okay. Many people fear what they don’t understand.
“Anyone?”
The environmentalists have done such a good job making this obvious that it appears there is no hope. Whats the point anymore? I think McDs should just go back to the styrofoam Big Macs containers.
London – Queen Elizabeth II presents Michelle Obama with 1977 vintage, souvenier Silver Jubilee knickers
http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait.php?LinkID=mp60731&rNo=2&role=sit
“That doesn’t mean it’s nonsense or garbage. It means you don’t understand it.”
Dan you’re not smarter then me. I know that.I want to see it..prove it to me.
ONE EXAMPLE of the effects of climate change here on 2nd ave in Buffalo mn.
“Many people fear what they don’t understand.”
Some of the most frightened people I know are environmentalists.
“ONE EXAMPLE of the effects of climate change here on 2nd ave in Buffalo mn.”
The worlds a big place Tiny.
“Many people fear what they don’t understand.”
Cons are based on this premise.
All that posting for nothing, Dan, because nothing you posted adds much weight to your hyperbolic “The oceans have just about reached the limits of how much CO2 they can absorb.â€
Again, a more reasoned approach is more effective than hitting the panic button.
“Nina Fedoroff told the BBC One Planet programme that humans had exceeded the Earth’s “limits of sustainabilityâ€.
My hand is down, but few people want to view the problem for what it really is, too many damn humans. Mother Nature is a bitch.
The issue I have with the climate change
debate is the fact that you keep hearing the same old BS any time an alternate hypothesis is presented.
1) The scientist is in the pocket of “Big Evil Corporation”
2) The scientist is the “wrong kind” of scientist, as if geology played no role in shaping the Earth’s climate.
3) Thousands of scientists agree…
Even though nearly every major discovery
in history has been made by one, or a small team of scientists.
Add to it any number of excuses to advance the theory of conservative bad/liberal good and vice versa.
“The worlds a big place Tiny.”
So its happening all around me but not here.
Great Scam, perfect con.
If its “Global” then I expect to see it when I look out the window. Today I don’t see it. Next week when the highs are only in the 40′s…I’m going to be seeing it.
Some of the most frightened people I know are environmentalists.
They need to talk to some capitalists. They understand the enormous opportunity here but are having trouble getting everyone else to stop obsessing over the environmentalists and phony “alternate hypothesis.” Conversion to a sustainable green economy shouldn’t be a partisan issue.
I guess picking on the alarmists is much easier than trying to understand the science and/or the potential economics involved.
“U.S. private sector axes 742,000 jobs in March”
Yeah buy how many jobs where “saved”
You watch folks..you watch that will be the talking point
Tiny ..
Do NOT buy a brand new riding lawn mower. It’s not worth it.
Here’s a very nice one which I’m sure you could get for less than the asking price and would last you a very long time. It’s a heavier duty model than you’d get at sears or home depot etc.
minneapolis.craigslist.org/grd/1101328933.html
“So its happening all around me but not here.”
There are places effected by it that are further away than you can get while ridding your lawn mower.
“Great Scam, perfect con.”
Ive never seen an islamic terrorist blow anything up in Mpls from my back porch, but I know we have a global war on terror going on.
But I think just maybe, the time horrizon on armagedon is a little further out than Dan and other freightened environmentalists would have us believe. Of course I could be wrong. The ocean might explode tomorrow. Im still going to drive less, for the savings if nothing else, and seperate the cans from the bottles in the trash. Oh and Ill turn off the light when I leave the room and shut off the faucet while I brush my teeth. Im not buying one of those STUUUUUUPID ‘smart’ cars though. Smart? Yeah until a mac truck hits you on the freeway, then your pretty stupid.
Hey Mark .. did she download?
“Ive never seen an islamic terrorist blow anything up in Mpls from my back porch, but I know we have a global war on terror going on.”
But see I don’t that good comparison. I did see climate change here. We had some warm winters for a few years. But as I expected the winters are sure back to normal the last few years.
So I lived threw climate change and things are pretty much the way they where again.
All that posting for nothing, Dan, because nothing you posted adds much weight to your hyperbolic “The oceans have just about reached the limits of how much CO2 they can absorb.â€
Really?
“Scientists have issued a new warning about climate change after discovering a sudden and dramatic collapse in the amount of carbon emissions absorbed by the Sea of Japan.”
“The Southern Ocean Is Approaching Its Limit for Carbon Absorption”
“…has led to a release of stored carbon dioxide from the ocean into the atmosphere and is preventing further absorption of the greenhouse gas.”
“…such dramatic results were unexpected as it was thought that the huge ocean systems had the ability to absorb large quantities of CO2.”
I suppose things read differently in Bizarro World.
“They need to talk to some capitalists.”
Ive said Im all in for the green movement for the green backs. Make money save money and create some jobs. We dont have enough manufacturing jobs here. Lets create a new industry. Im sold Dan. Id like to invest some capital right now. Where should I start. Im thinking options on land for wind farms in ND.
“I guess picking on the alarmists is much easier than trying to understand the science and/or the potential economics involved.”
Oh, I GET the economics. Lets do it. Im on board.
“Do NOT buy a brand new riding lawn mower. It’s not worth it.”
I was kind of thinking about buying new.
And HEY I had a damn heart attack.
But maybe somebody down the block has lost their job or something and they will be selling theirs. Maybe I can get a deal.
“Hey Mark .. did she download?”
She’s carrying a lot lower if thats what you mean. Still 3 weeks to diaper change #1.
” Im thinking options on land for wind farms in ND. ”
That’s not such a bad idea .. but why not keep it in this state? SW MN has some good areas.
I’ve been using that Heart Attack deal to excuse my behavior a lot. You can get some mileage out of it.
Now if I was a one legged gay minority with a heart condition. Who knows maybe never have to work again.
Tiny .. the cardiac is an excuse .. sort of .. I get that one .. HA!
What I showed you would last you 20 years if you did the maintenance. And the maintenance is very, very low… and .. there’s a cup holder.
There’s a bunch of them on craigslist. Just look in farm/garden and use the search words ‘Must Sell’.
It may sound awful, but you might be giving a person a hand by getting a good deal.
Are we seeing as much “Protest” coverage as we use to?
“Democrat Scott Murphy led Republican Jim Tedisco by a scant 65 votes out of more than 154,000 cast Tuesday.”
7:00 pm Monday night MSNBC told me this guy had ZERO chance of winning.
“Are we seeing as much “Protest†coverage as we use to?”
Heck yeah. Sh:t is breaking loose in London right now.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/04/01/g20.london.protests/index.html
“Heck yeah. Sh:t is breaking loose in London right now.”
But I’m not seeing “The Signs”. We need signs up front and center. You know the “Obama is baby killer” signs. I want “Signs” dude, “Signs”
Here we go CNN…
Signs where are the signs…turn that camera..show me those “War Crimmnal” signs…turn that camera
Nope now shown?
Mark ..
Dowload means she’s evacuated the little alien from her body.
She’s just in the final stages of download now.
Where should I start.
If I had investment money right now I’d be buying into this heavily: http://www.icelenergy.com/
They’re going to be tomorrows Intel.
I would also be buying as much Polaris as I could afford. They’re working with ICEL and are going to make a major play into the electric auto markets. Their reasoning is that the Big Three have too many institutional hurdles to easily make that transition. Do some research into their recently developing relationship with Bobcat.
I haven’t looked too far into lithium mining and refining, but if I did have the money to make a portfolio I’d be centering a lot of my picks around that.
Lithium will be tomorrow’s oil.
So many opportunities, so little extra money. It’s a terrible time to be broke.
“If I had investment money right now I’d be buying into this heavily:”
Put it in your SEP. Your self employed right?
“I haven’t looked too far into lithium mining and refining”
They dont mine that in the Congo or in Sierra Leonne do they? Blood Lithium?
Put it in your SEP. Your self employed right?
Yeah, but we’re still climbing out from a disastrous ’08 4th qt and self financed materials inventory for ’09 (Credit? What credit?). Between that and a mortgage on a big rehab (our “investment” – shoot me now) it’s all we can do to stay on top of everything.
“I suppose things read differently in Bizarro World.”
Bizarro World, a magical place where left wing types go to get scientific information filtered through agenda driven environmentalist websites, because conservatives suck.
“I’ve been using that Heart Attack deal to excuse my behavior a lot. You can get some mileage out of it.”
Enjoy it while it lasts. They’ll stop giving a sh1t soon.
I’m considering faking another event just for another six months of “get away from me, I can’t take the stress right now”.
Bizarro World, a magical place where right wing types go to get scientific information filtered through agenda driven partisan websites, because conservatives fear science.
There. Fixed it.
“Yeah, but we’re still climbing out from a disastrous ‘08 4th qt and self financed materials inventory for ‘09 (Credit? What credit?).”
Remember that day you told me you didnt need credit and werent going to be effected by the credit crunch and that I fell asleep during the part of banker class when they taught the small business section?
“Between that and a mortgage on a big rehab (our “investment†– shoot me now) it’s all we can do to stay on top of everything.”
Yeah but its a labor of love right? I bet you watch a lot of This Old House.
“Lithium will be tomorrow’s oil.”
Everyone will be driving electric cars or universal health care will allow us to treat all the nutjobs?
“Still 3 weeks to diaper change #1.”
Just four weeks until you open the diaper and psssssssst, one banker suit off to the dry cleaner.
Remember that day you told me you didnt need credit and werent going to be effected by the credit crunch and that I fell asleep during the part of banker class when they taught the small business section?
Yes I do. In the end (say, around June) I’m going to be glad I was able to self finance. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
Yeah but its a labor of love right? I bet you watch a lot of This Old House.
A huge labor of love. The good news is I have no intention of ever selling, though we bought at a steep discount to do the rehab ourselves and probably don’t look too bad if this do go south on us. Of course on the other hand it can be a strain living in a construction zone, but the view is amazing and we love the neighbors and the neighborhood. I’m following the Hometime tv series in class, and the wife is a regular HGTV follower. We separated our responsibilities between structural and decorative. So far that’s cut the fighting way down.
“we love the neighbors and the neighborhood”
I thought you were a downtown emptynester type in a condo? Did you move back into the neighborhoods and rent out the condo?
“I’m going to be glad I was able to self finance.”
Opportunity cost. Maybe you missed the lithium boat? I wonder if people will still get rich using other peoples money or if leverage is gone the way of the VHS?
“Just four weeks until you open the diaper and psssssssst, one banker suit off to the dry cleaner.”
Nah, he’s having a girl. They don’t have quite the “range of fire” a boy does.
I thought you were a downtown emptynester type in a condo? Did you move back into the neighborhoods and rent out the condo?
Hardly. Downtown has some great walkable neighborhoods near the river. I can walk to theaters (cinema and Guthrie), restaurants, night clubs, groceries, light rail, the river… Lots of empty-nester neighbors too.
Lets define Downtown. To people like Tiny I live downtown and Im way out by Nokomis. Are you on the NE side? Or more over by Bryn Mawr?
“Lithium will be tomorrow’s oil.”
Unless they come up with some sweet new battery (or a “Mr. Fusion,” maybe?) that doesn’t require lithium.
Unless they come up with some sweet new battery (or a “Mr. Fusion,†maybe?) that doesn’t require lithium.
I have no doubt that at some point lithium will go the way of oil, but I also expect it to have a good run as our best energy storage for the foreseeable future.
Lets define Downtown.
Without giving away the Bat Cave, anything with more than 20 stories, and not in isolation from other 20+ story buildings, and minimum five restaurants and three coffee shops in a three block radius.
“Without giving away the Bat Cave”
And this is a house you bought and are rehabbing? Sounds like you must live over on Lowry hill or near Loring Park. Try the Market BBQ. Pings is good too.
Any truth to the idea that Sern. Stevens is innocent?
Any truth to the idea that Sern. Stevens is innocent?
No. The prosecutors withheld evidence from Steven’s defense team, a serious legal no-no. On a positive note Holder is serious about zero-tolerance with regard to prosecutor misconduct and will use this (and the fact that he fired the prosecutor and his entire team) to get that message across.
But nonetheless cue the Steven’s Is Innocent cries in 3… 2…
And this is a house you bought and are rehabbing?
No, it’s a condo, but badly outdated (read: never updated) and a lot of poorly patched water damage issues.
Any truth to the idea that Sern. Stevens is innocent?
More like, those prosecutors were arrogant and underestimated who they were f-ing with.
“Any truth to the idea that Sern. Stevens is innocent?”
I think this is one of those cases where “innocent” and “not guilty” are mutually exclusive.
“Any truth to the idea that Sern. Stevens is innocent?”
Innocent due to prosecutorial misconduct.
Any truth to the idea that the prosecuting attorny is innocent.
“Any truth to the idea that the prosecuting attorny is innocent’
No.
Thoughts of GO:
G-20 summit protesters – time to deal with their concerns. This is not their grandparents battle for Seattle. This is a one time real concern for all folks. It hits home and can, litteraly send the children of the socially rightious into a nose dive of which recovery will not be easily gauranteed. To ignore thier suttle message now will make the Road Warrior, Thunder Dome look meek.
The world crisis in the financial market and the world govenment response will fuel a dependancy on social services well beyond our current crisis setting up all nations into a lockstep trap of degenerate generations that will have no thought or life experiance of self determination. This will be equal to or may actually surpass the generations raised in the Soviet Union. Said Generations were left to thier own deviceses whitch included death and starvation for the liberty of the market forces.
And one more thing. I farted and it smells like…….. poop.
Bachmann
No Wonder she sounds like she just landed!!!
She took her Master of Law degree from a program for foreigners!!!!
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