The U.S. Senate battle: 22 weeks in 16 minutes

April 1st, 2009 – 2:50 PM by Bob von Sternberg

For many (most?) Minnesotans, it only seems like the tug-of-war between Norm Coleman and Al Franken has been going on forever, with no end in sight. For folks who haven’t been keeping track of its twists or turns — or those who want to relive the highlights, the folks at The UpTake video site have boiled the whole mess down into a tidy 16-minute documentary.

It’s worth a look.

45 Responses to "The U.S. Senate battle: 22 weeks in 16 minutes"

dare2sayit.com says:

April 1st, 2009 at 5:00 pm

We should either give Norm Coleman his original victory or do a revote. This severely flawed “recount” is a joke and needs to be tossed out.

Downtown Dan says:

April 1st, 2009 at 5:23 pm

This severely flawed “recount” is a joke and needs to be tossed out.

Yeah, striving for accuracy and counting all legal votes really bites.

Cash N. Carey says:

April 1st, 2009 at 5:29 pm

Dan states: “Yeah, striving for accuracy and counting all legal votes really bites”

I am glad we agree that Coleman is right.

God bless you Norm!

Tiny bulbs says:

April 1st, 2009 at 6:26 pm

“Yeah, striving for accuracy and counting all legal votes really bites.”

Man you don’t have a clue do you Dan. Its only because your guy is ahead that you crack off such a childish and smart@ss remark. You’re just so full of Bull Sh^t. And that leftwing condescending “I’m smarter then you” sh^t. You should be on MSNBC in the Evenings.

There are unfortunately people like you involved in this recount process. Its my side at all costs. Who the hell are you trying to kid “accuracy and counting all legal votes”

Downtown Dan says:

April 1st, 2009 at 6:35 pm

Who the hell are you trying to kid “accuracy and counting all legal votes”

Someone sounds like a SORE LOSERman. Remember all the SORE LOSERMAN signs the GOP faithful were waving around in 2000? Shoe’s on the other foot now.

Downtown Dan says:

April 1st, 2009 at 6:38 pm

Rightwing Logic:

Striving for accuracy and counting all legal votes = A childish and smart@ss remark.

But that’s just life in Bizarro World for the few remaining in the Cult of the GOP.

Dora says:

April 1st, 2009 at 7:48 pm

Well done Uptake. Anybody who took the time could have followed the recount and election contest. The process was entirely open and transparent.

Coleman was not able to prove any of his claims in court. He simply didn’t have any evidence. Expecting the judges to ignore the law was a ludicrous strategy. But it’s all they had because it was obvious that Franken did get more votes.

Greg 63 says:

April 1st, 2009 at 8:02 pm

I think we should find a candidate that D2, CNC, Dan, and Parth all can’t stand …

that would be cool.

DJ says:

April 1st, 2009 at 8:19 pm

And Dora.

Hey Greg, I think I’m going with the p220 instead of the 250. Talked to a guy, he said it was better. More expensive, but I love the feel of it. Going to Bill’s this weekend where they are having a show to try it out. Might get it then depending on how it goes and what else I try.

Downtown Dan says:

April 1st, 2009 at 10:01 pm

I think we should find a candidate that D2, CNC, Dan, and Parth all can’t stand …

What’s the middle-ground between sane and insane?

Greg 63 says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 am

No Dan ..

What’s the middle ground between the two realms of insanity.

Downtown Dan says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:06 am

What’s the middle ground between the two realms of insanity.

An inability to grasp reality masked in a false belief that Truth must always fall in the middle.

Tiny bulbs says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 am

“Someone sounds like a SORE LOSERman”

Dan I told you a hundred times I think Coleman should be so shamed the election was even this close and go live in the woods somewhere.

The real remarkable thing is watching you post with such glee when everyone knows you’d be in here screaming bloody murder if it was the other way around.

Thats the frickin’ joke here Pal. YOU

Tiny bulbs says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 am

“ir Obama

President Obama’s European visit this week has strained Air Force heavy-airlift capabilities and obliged the military to hire more foreign contractors to help resupply U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan, according to military sources.

The large delegation traveling with the president in Europe required moving several transports, including jumbo C-5s and C-17s, from sorties ferrying supplies to Afghanistan to European bases for the presidential visit, said two military officials familiar with the issue. They spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid any misunderstanding with White House officials.”

Is this true..Washington Post.

If so I should find out by watching CNN Today. You think?

Deacon Blues says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:27 am

“An inability to grasp reality masked in a false belief that Truth must always fall in the middle.”

If you are looking for Truth in politics and expect to find it somewhere on the spectrum between DEM and GOP or Franken and Coleman, YOU are insane.

Greg 63 says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 am

“If you are looking for Truth in politics and expect to find it somewhere on the spectrum between DEM and GOP or Franken and Coleman, YOU are insane”

I have no idea why he brought up truth.

Truth and politics? Vinegar and water?

להקיא says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 am

DJ,

I’ve owned probably about fifty pistols in my day, and the P220 is my personal favorite. If you like it, it’s well worth the money.

להקיא says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 am

“An inability to grasp reality masked in a false belief that Truth must always fall in the middle.”

Let me remind you that your a self proclaimed zealot, so your advice here is akin to a priest writing a book on cunnilingus technique.

Tiny bulbs says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 am

“If you are looking for Truth in politics and expect to find it somewhere on the spectrum between DEM and GOP or Franken and Coleman, YOU are insane.”

Now Mark look at this election in NY. Another close one…like less then 1,000 votes close.

Now how many of these elections are we going to have? What are the odds this continues to happen?

Maybe both sides have figured out how to cheat and this is what we get.

Tiny bulbs says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 am

They know how many votes they need to win and they both make it happen?

Is this a new thing, these close elections?

Deacon Blues says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 am

“Is this a new thing, these close elections?”

Dewey Beats Truman.

Earsall Mackbee says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 am

It’s hard to find a liberal conspiracy in the Senate recount when all the panelists on both the Canvassing Board and this court case (other than Ritchie) were Independents or Republicans and every decision has been by unanimous vote.

Tiny bulbs says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 am

“It’s hard to find a liberal conspiracy in the Senate recount”

But who ever wins when you are as close as a 1,000 out of a million votes. I think its pretty hard to think out of a million at least there’s a 1% error.

Think how fast NY turned that race for that congressional seat. We should have had a “run off” thing and it would get decided I’m sure by a greater margin.

Downtown Dan says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 am

Let me remind you that your a self proclaimed zealot, so your advice here is akin to a priest writing a book on cunnilingus technique.

When I said, “There’s no zealot like a convert” I was using an old quote to make a point. I could as easily have said, “I didn’t leave the party, the party left me.” Of course next to you, D2, and CNC I’m sure I look like a communist, so, whatever.

להקיא says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 am

” Of course next to you, D2, and CNC I’m sure I look like a communist, so, whatever.”

How the fvck can you lump me in with D2 and CNC when I support the rights of D2 and CNC to marry each other?

That just doesn’t add up.

Nevermind, I just figured it out.

Deacon Blues says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 am

“I didn’t leave the party, the party left me.”

I cant stand how a stance on an issue becomes the sole domain of one party. If you’re locked into that stance on that issue, you’ll vote against all your other interests because of it. Its like being the fan of a sports team. I cant stand feeling like Ive been branded. Makes you feel manipulated. I cant get on board with either side because there are boiler plate stances on issues from each party I cant stand.

Tiny bulbs says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 am

Albania joins NATO. See for you guys that don’t know nothin’. When I was growing up Albania was the North Korea of Europe. And they actually where allied with China.

Point being..I’m confident I know more then at least 90% of you people.

Tiny bulbs says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 am

And to be perfectly honest if you wanted to list it, I’d go with me on top and GO on the bottom one below Dan and then fill in the rest.

List of Blog Smartest to Dumbest

1.Tiny Bulbs(Litessss)

99. Downtown Dan
100. GO

Deacon Blues says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 am

“Point being..I’m confident I know more then at least 90% of you people.”

I trust Im in the 10%.

Tiny bulbs says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 11:34 am

99. Downtown Dan
99.9 Greg 63
100. GO

Downtown Dan says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 11:44 am

I cant stand how a stance on an issue becomes the sole domain of one party.

That’s how I feel about a lot of issues. It’s the curse of a two party system. Less opportunity to vote for who I want and all the incentives are tilted toward voting against who I hate more.

List of Blog Smartest to Dumbest

1.Tiny Bulbs(Litessss)

99. Downtown Dan
100. GO

Considering the Bizarro World source, I’m complimented.

Downtown Dan says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 11:47 am

How the fvck can you lump me in with D2 and CNC

Just because you’re smarter (I know, low bar) doesn’t mean you’re not birds of a feather.

Deacon Blues says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 12:05 pm

“doesn’t mean you’re not birds of a feather.”

Partisan Turkey?

parhian is the Partisan Albatross.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 12:14 pm

“parhian is the Partisan Albatross.”

Dodo bird fits better, like most of his ideas, they don’t fly.

Deacon Blues says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm

Have you ever seen an albatross land? Just like Parthian’s statements, they crash and burn on their way back to earth.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 12:59 pm

“Have you ever seen an albatross land?”

I have, but I’d forgotten their “controlled crash” is much more crash than controlled.

DJ says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 pm

I’m confident I know more then at least 90% of you people

I know the difference between “then” and “than”. Where does that put me?

להקיא says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm

“I know the difference between “then” and “than”. Where does that put me? ”

Harvard

DJ says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm

Harvard, here I come!!

parthian says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 5:20 pm

Well the dodo could hardly fly and the albatross is the greatest soaring bird species known, able to cover vast distances with very little energy expended. Not much “middle ground” between the two. Unfortunately, one species is extrinct and the other is largely being driven to extinction.

The corporate press of the state hasn’t a judgmental word to say about Sore Loser Norm and his never concede tactics, nor can they apparently figure out that this litigation is being funded from out of state Repub interests, seeking to hamper Obama’s agenda in the senate for as long as possible–which DC Repubs are happy to admit. Every headline just darkly reports that Norm’s “chances” are dimming and that Norm will keep appealing ALAP.

The BQ “moderates” never have anything to say about what they think about the merits of Horse Dentures Norm’s “case” and whether it’s responsible for him to obstruct a state election well into the new Congressional term. Seems never to cross their minds.

They didn’t vote for either, so apparently they conclude that they don’t “care” about the process, or whether this is an appropriate path for the (clear) loser of a statewide recount to take.

Perhaps they imagine that some illusional “middle ground” (always unspecified of course) exists and that Franken and Coleman are (of course) both equally in the wrong in the case. How Franken (and the state election machiney) is just as “wrong” goes unspecified, because then they’d have to know something about something, heaven forbid. They don’t like Franken, so who cares whether he won!

This is brain failure, and choosing slogans over knowledge—just like the worst “conservative” fool. The fact that there are two opposed positions doesn’t mean that both are automatically wrong, nor is this some more politically “evolved” pose.

Deacon Blues says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 pm

“Well the dodo could hardly fly and the albatross is the greatest soaring bird species known, able to cover vast distances with very little energy expended. Not much “middle ground” between the two. Unfortunately, one species is extrinct and the other is largely being driven to extinction.”

Well played, Albatross. But the Andean Condor is the greatest soaring bird my friend. Ever been to Aconcagua?

Deacon Blues says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 pm

“They don’t like Franken, so who cares whether he won!”

Im thinking about the next 5.5 years not the next 60 days or however long this takes. So in that case no I DONT CARE. The real brain failure here is by those who believe that Franken, is any different than any other politician. Tell me Albatorss, how is Franken different?

Deacon Blues says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:17 pm

“The corporate press of the state hasn’t a judgmental word to say about Sore Loser Norm and his never concede tactics”

You moron. The press, a good press, is charged with providing facts, NOT PASSING JUDGEMENT. Read the City Pages if you want judgement on Norm. Such partisan bias, tisk tisk.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

April 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm

“Unfortunately, one species is extrinct”

“Extricnt”?

I just thought the name was more, accurate.

rawkibby says:

April 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm

An otherwise excellent summary marred by one glaring error and it is one of the right wing’s dangerous lies. Coleman had a provisional lead of seven hundred votes. Heck, Franken at one point had a provisional lead of over 1000 votes. But when all was said and done, when the precincts verified their numbers and ran the neglected ballots through that day after the election, Coleman had a 215 vote lead. That is the number that matters before the work of the canvassing board. The hand recount, the challenged ballots and the universe of 933 IRAB’s swung the lead in the other direction, a swing of under 450, not the 1000 vote swing the clueless or lying partisans like to spew. You didn’t make one other thing clear for the lying right wing trolls: both candidates gained votes in the hand recount that the canvassing board completed.

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