Kline wants preview of Obama speech to see if it’s OK for kids

September 3rd, 2009 – 11:31 AM by Eric Roper

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If anyone isn’t convinced that Rep. John Kline has taken on a new role in the Republican Party, a letter the congressman sent to the White House yesterday might make them a true believer.

Kline, the top Republican on the House Education and Labor Committee, sent a letter to President Obama requesting a preview of next week’s speech to millions of students so that parents can determine whether it is appropriate for children. The speech has been billed as the first time “an American president has spoken directly to the nation’s school children about persisting and succeeding in school.”

“Just as parents are able to review a textbook before it is used or consider a planned field trip before children leave the classroom, public consideration of your remarks in advance of the live address would ensure parents can review them, make an informed decision about whether the material is appropriate for their children, and engage them accordingly,” Kline wrote along with Republican Policy Committee Chairman Thaddeus McCotter, R-MI.

The four-term congressman noted that “questions have arisen” about the purpose of the speech, and said a preview of the text would “facilitate the public’s understanding” of the event. Alexa Marrero, a spokeswoman for the Republicans on Kline’s committee, said several House members have approached them with concerns from constituents about Obama delivering a political speech to students.

Part of that concern, Merrero added, arises from the Department of Education’s suggested activities and discussions for schoolteachers. Though the DoE instructions have since been revised, they once encouraged students to write themselves a letter discussing “how to help the president.”

Following the release of Kline’s letter, the White House said it would post the text of the speech online, though it’s not clear how far in advance, according to the Washington Post.

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98 Responses to "Kline wants preview of Obama speech to see if it’s OK for kids"

Downtown Dan says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..

dubble_a_ron says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm

Trying to care, trying to care,
Nope.
I don’t care about this.

Deacon Blues says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm

“THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – California authorities say a clash between opponents and supporters of health care reform ended with one man biting off another man’s finger.”

God, thats funny.

Downtown Dan says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm

But was the biter pro or anti reform? Was the injured man covered? And what was the finger of the one doing that close to the mouth of the other?

Earsall Mackbee says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm

preexisting condition

Deacon Blues says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 3:53 pm

“But was the biter pro or anti reform?”

He was PRO reform. So far, I believe this is the first serious injury at a health care debate.

dubble_a_ron says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 4:04 pm

Mom always said it was rude to point at people.

She discouraged biting too though.

I think some folks are taking their politics way too seriously.

Downtown Dan says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 4:13 pm

Don’t get sick:

Researchers from the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee analyzed data reported by the insurers to the California Department of Managed Care. From 2002 through June 30, 2009, the six insurers rejected 45.7 million claims — 22 percent of all claims.

For the first half of 2009, as the national debate over healthcare reform was escalating, the rejection rates are even more striking.

Claims denial rates by leading California insurers, first six months of 2009:

• PacifiCare — 39.6 percent
• Cigna — 32.7 percent
• HealthNet — 30 percent
• Kaiser Permanente — 28.3 percent
• Blue Cross — 27.9 percent
• Aetna — 6.4 percent

But hey, your odds of having your private insurance actually pay out should you need then are still better than 50/50. I’ll bet we all know someone who actually had their health insurance coverage pay when they got sick.

cbsx01 says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm

Info for teachers from the ed.gov site

http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html

dubble_a_ron says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm

Right now school board members all over the country are thinking,
“aw, jeez, the President announces he’s going to tell the kids to stay in school and now the next open school board meeting is going to be highjacked by screaming teabaggers. Someone’s going to get a piece bitten off of them.
Aw, jeez.”

swschrad says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 4:31 pm

what a showboating demogogue Kline is. next he’ll claim it’s only compatible with firefox, not internet explorer. or maybe it has too many carbs. Kline has apparently signed onto the Moron Squad, marching to a beat only wingnuts hear.

snarfleberry says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 5:03 pm

Kline is a buffoon and an ideologue who has never had an independent thought in his entire life. Thus, the question becomes: “Who told him to say this?”

parthian says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm

With this latest “Save the Children!!” Repub Retardation, Col Klink has officially gone off the deep end. He’ll literally say whatever the crazed Boss Limbaugh orders. Is this just another Hitlerian approach by Obama, Col Klink?

Heaven forbid that America’s kids might have a reason to listen to a presidential speech! Better that they stay as ignorant as citzens as their (cretinous Repub) parents, you betcha!!

Yep, the president has no business making an address to the nation’s schoolkids about the need to stay in school, and parents have a “right” to “approve” the speech ahead of time for “appropriate” content.

When has this ever been an “issue” before? How do we “protect” our kids from other presidential speeches, even when not directed to them?! And of course the corporate MSM parrots Kline’s manufactured Repub “controversy” in all particulars. Par for the course.

More “Family Values” ™ from the gibbering Repub Party.

dare2sayit.com says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm

I can sure tell I’m not in Minnesota anymore. It’s 112F outside and far too many billboards are in Spanish.

dare2sayit.com says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm

Failing government run public schools have done too much damage to our children through liberal endoctination already, and we don’t need Obama to make the problem even worse with his soci@list B.S.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 6:51 pm

“and parents have a “right” to “approve” the speech ahead of time for “appropriate” content.”

You would have taken Kilne’s position if it was Bush.

Downtown Dan says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:09 pm

You would have taken Kilne’s position if it was Bush.

Obama isn’t the first president to make a broadcast speech to the nation’s schoolchildren, but listening to the wackos’ reactions you would sure think it was.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm

“Obama isn’t the first president to make a broadcast speech to the nation’s schoolchildren”

You’re right, H.W. in ’91.

Back then, the Dems said that it was a campaign commercial.

I agreed with them then, and I feel the same way now.

Downtown Dan says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm

Back then, the Dems said that it was a campaign commercial.

The Dems in your mind.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 7:52 pm

“The Dems in your mind.”

Yeah, me and the AP-

“She [White House deputy policy director Heather Higginbottom] noted that President George H.W. Bush made a similar address to schools in 1991. Like Obama, Bush drew criticism, with Democrats accusing the Republican president of making the event into a campaign commercial.”

6th district Jim says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm

Ah yes, it was quite nice to be out in monterey and avoid the libtards like Dan and Parthian, where there is NO boundary between their fantasy and reality world………
Yes, Dan who is obviously as clueless about “exponential” as he is about restaurants, military medicine, or lawsuits causing hundred of billions in needless annual costs.
Or Parthian, who sets new standards for arguing the moon IS made of green cheese!

Just show the idiots the article, it speaks for itself:

House Democrats criticized President Bush yesterday for using Education Department funds to produce and broadcast a speech that he made Tuesday at a Northwest Washington junior high school.

The Democratic critics accused Bush of turning government money for education to his own political use, namely, an ongoing effort to inoculate himself against their charges of inattention to domestic issues. The speech at Alice Deal Junior High School, broadcast live on radio and television, urged students to study hard, avoid drugs and turn in troublemakers.

“The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students,” House Majority Leader Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo.) said. “And the president should be doing more about education than saying, ‘Lights, camera, action.’ ”

Two House committees demanded that the department explain the use of its funds for the speech, an explanation that Deputy Secretary David T. Kearns provided late in the day in a letter to Rep. William D. Ford (D-Mich.), chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee. Education Secretary Lamar Alexander was out of town. [...]

Rep. Patricia Schroeder (D-Colo.), chairwoman of the Select Committee on Children, Youth and Families, said it was outrageous for the White House to “start using precious dollars for campaigns” when “we are struggling for every silly dime we can get” for education programs.

Rep. Martin Frost (D-Tex.) said that if Bush feels obliged to use government funds to hire outside consultants “to make him look good,” then he should fire some of the public relations experts on the White House payroll. “Then the president might be more sympathetic to unemployment benefits,” Frost said, referring to Bush’s threat to veto legislation to extend benefits.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm

“Critics are particularly upset about lesson plans the administration created to accompany the speech. The lesson plans, available online, originally recommended having students “write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.”

The White House revised the plans Wednesday to say students could “write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals.”

“That was inartfully worded, and we corrected it,” Higginbottom said.”

Since you’re all into false equivalencies……

6th district Jim says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm

Blah Blah Blah!
I miss Pebble Beach already.

Lets follow libtard logic:
Bush war is bad
Obama war is good

Repub 400 bil deficit very BAD
Dem 1.6 trillion deficit GOOD

Obama speaks to students GOOD
Bush speaks to students BAD

Violence at protests, again it is Dems, just like St Paul (shock! Look at the blue counties and follow the murder rates).

Need a public option for healthcare because the current system is too expensive and still lags the world…..
Hey, at least we keep increasing our life expectancies……

Say what?
Our PUBLIC education system is the world’s most expensive, and student performance is plummeting against the world?
Do the Obamacare supporters want a private option for EDUCATION??????????
Of course NOT! HERE they dont want a different option….You cant make this hypocrisy up = the Dan’s are morons.

The left are simply idiots, too stupid to even realize they ARE idiots.
Hey far-leftie losers, been gone, had fun, havent missed ya…….

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

EightIsEnuff says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 pm

What in the world is the matter with people these days? The President of the United States wants to talk to young people about staying in school, and people are opposed to that???

Have people in this country really become so hard-headed and polarized that they aren’t even willing to listen to someone with an opposing view?

You don’t have to agree with everything the man says, but he IS the elected leader of our nation and, as Americans, we should at least have enough respect to hear him out.

adlib says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:27 pm

“I think some folks are taking their politics way too seriously.”

That’s obviously not what the victim meant when he told the perpetrator to “bite me!”

But the single biggest attraction I see for making a virtue out of being non- partisan is the very real dollar savings from making zero non-deductible political contributions. It would be just great if supporters of both parties stopped sending money. But what if just one side, i.e. the small time Democrat citizen donors unilaterally disarmed? Would that be all the same to the non-partisans?

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm

“You cant make this hypocrisy up”

From either side.

If we can find a market for it, the national debt would be gone in a couple of minutes.

With a tax rate of .00000000000000001% !

adlib says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:34 pm

“I can sure tell I’m not in Minnesota anymore. It’s 112F outside and far too many billboards are in Spanish.”

Globull cooling in Mexico?

Downtown Dan says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm

Yeah, me and the AP-

Yeah, the Murdoch owned UP. Zzzzzzz….

Maybe you can find something other than hearsay about imaginary “Dems” for the sake of false balance from a partisan hack, but I doubt it.

Major Roger Healey says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm

“Maybe you can find something other than hearsay”

goes something like –

“I think they’re Astroturf,” Pelosi said Tuesday. “You be the judge.”

Or

“Just because someone opposes their understanding of what this health care is, that’s not a bad thing. But some of what is orchestrated to prevent the opportunity of presenting the plan, that’s a different story,” the Speaker said.”

Leffwingnut make believe.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm

“It would be just great if supporters of both parties stopped sending money.”

I’m not so worried about donations to a particular candidate from individuals.”

What worries me is each of the parties huge war chest that they use to threaten their members with if they don’t tow the line.

It’s especially shameful in the house. Where a members choice is, if you represent your constituents, you won’t get any funds from us.”

Dysfunctional little system we have here.

adlib says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm

“You would have taken Kilne’s position if it was Bush.”

Then why is the unprecedented attempt to censor the bully pulpit of the presidency still a novelty? Partisan parents can still let their kids watch or not as the case may be. It’s just that the kids who didn’t get to watch the speech will be at a disadvantage in classroom discussion the next day.

What, you mean Kline really intends to stop classroom discussion of it by legislating to defund all “current events” from public school curriculum?
Now I’m starting to get the picture.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 pm

“Yeah, the Murdoch owned UP. Zzzzzzz….

Maybe you can find something other than hearsay about imaginary “Dems” for the sake of false balance from a partisan hack, but I doubt it.”

Read it and weep, AP. Does Murdoch own Google?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ib8qja0qqnnbZFsHF7kP6GV9XVfQD9AG43GO0

And apparently you missed 6DJ’s 8:00pm post.

Or do you think Pat Schroeder’s still in Congress?

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 9:09 pm

“Then why is the unprecedented attempt to censor the bully pulpit of the presidency still a novelty? Partisan parents can still let their kids watch or not as the case may be. It’s just that the kids who didn’t get to watch the speech will be at a disadvantage in classroom discussion the next day.”

Yeah, unprecedented since 1991.

I’d like to see someone show me how these two statements are even remotely related:

“write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.”

And the more “artfully” worded.

“write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals.”

Anyone?

adlib says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 pm

“write letters to the president about what they can do to help him to help them achieve their short-term and long-term education goals” is perhaps closest to what he intended, but that probably sounded too much like community organizing.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 10:23 pm

“write letters to the president about what they can do to help him to help them achieve their short-term and long-term education goals” is perhaps closest to what he intended, but that probably sounded too much like community organizing.

Because we all need help?

See, there used to be this thing called a “parent”

That was actually related to you.

adlib says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 10:34 pm

“Back then, the Dems said that it was a campaign commercial.

I agreed with them then, and I feel the same way now.”

Okay Obama may be tipping his hat that he intends to seek a second term …if he can achieve a success or two by the eve of the Democratic convention in 2011. I’d say 1991 was closer to that point for H.W. in the political cycle than where we’re at now.

I don’t think the president is going for a touchdown on this bill. Maybe just a first down or any kind of progress before he has to punt. The opposition definitely considers the Health Care Reform bill a must win game.
They’re blitzing on every down to sack the quarterback who I hope scores that
TD to burn them for their efforts.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 pm

“They’re blitzing on every down to sack the quarterback who I hope scores that
TD to burn them for their efforts.”

I’m disappointed. I thought you could see the forest….

adlib says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 10:45 pm

“there used to be this thing called a ‘parent’

That was actually related to you.”

Yes, I know. Those years between reaching the age of reason and HS graduation can be a real drag for some kids. But I’m nod advocating “in loco parentis” presidential paternalism either. I get real stubborn when anyone tries to organize me.

Downtown Dan says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

And apparently you missed 6DJ’s 8:00pm post.

I generally skip 6BrainCells simi-literate keyboard dribblings. My cat can walk across the keyboard and produce a better argument.

So is the Dept of Education funding and producing Obama’s speech the way Bush used them? From the sounds of it the concern wasn’t that Bush was speaking to students, it was his use of DofE funds to do it.

But some of what is orchestrated to prevent the opportunity of presenting the plan, that’s a different story,” the Speaker said.”

Leffwingnut make believe.

Really? No organizing behind the teabaggers attempt to distort and shout down the health care debate? Wow. And I thought 6BrainCells was a few cards short of a three card Monte. No wonder Palin and Bachmann rule your world.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 pm

I generally skip 6BrainCells simi-literate keyboard dribblings. My cat can walk across the keyboard and produce a better argument.

No argument there.

But it did destroy your point.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 pm

“I get real stubborn when anyone tries to organize me.”

Then why be a part of a team?

dare2sayit.com says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm

“Globull cooling in Mexico?”

Very close! I’m in Yuma AZ, just blocks from California and Mexico.

6th district Jim says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 pm

Globull cooling in Mexico?”

Very close! I’m in Yuma AZ, just blocks from California and Mexico.

Sounds like a good time.
I must report that Monterey broke two alltime daily temps when we were there, one by 7 degrees! A high pressure area in midcountry apparently bubbled Vegas heat back towards CA. It was, however, the first days they had above 80 in 3 months!
After 3 prior trips (Az, Vegas, and Chitown) had megacold waves during my stay, at least this gave me hope that a new ice age may not be coming……
Be safe and come home soon!

6th district Jim says:

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 pm

Downtown Dan says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
And apparently you missed 6DJ’s 8:00pm post.

I generally skip 6BrainCells simi-literate keyboard dribblings. My cat can walk across the keyboard and produce a better argument.

:o )
Yes, Dan at his best.
Hint #1:
If one is making literacy zingers, at least try to spell (or is it “speall,” Dan?) the zinger correctly there, Downtown Dunce.
Perhaps you should let your cat do the blogging, cant be any less coherent….
Probably, even exponentially better!
;o)
I do realize it’s hard to fathom Dems ripping a President for speaking to students—the horror! Probably better you dont read that post……..
Let whiskers read it.

monty says:

September 4th, 2009 at 7:58 am

“at least this gave me hope that a new ice age may not be coming……”

No, I don’t think you have to worry about another Ice Age coming any time soon, Jim. In fact, you will have climate change issues, but another Ice age won’t be one of them:

http://www.startribune.com/world/57090412.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUsZ

parthian says:

September 4th, 2009 at 8:06 am

The goal of the Right with all this daily nonsense (happily covered in all particulars by the MSM) is to delegitimize Obama as a national leader—to basically present every action he takes as worthy of manufactured “outrage” at the hottest rhetorical levels.

Hence the claim being blatted 24/7 on the Noise Machine and MSM that Der Fuehrer Obama is now “indoctrinating” our little kids in the classroom and that a responsible parent will “protect” them from such harm. The blind hatred the Right has for Obama is simply overwhelming at this point (all of 8 months into office) and it will only increase.

America’s Rightists simply refuse to accept the existence of a Dem president, and for many of them the fact Obama is black is beyond the pale, of course. The are bug eyed with hate—over routine domestic policy proposals.

Nothing remotely like this “Indoctrination into Soc*alism!” lunacy was claimed by Dems about Daddy Bush’s speech–which was criticized after being given and mostly about use of federal gub’mint funds for a campaign (which is illegal, BTW). But of course the Rightwing Noise Machine was quick to throw out Dem criticism of Daddy Bush’s speech, so sewage-gorgers 6DJ and CS were there to gobble it without thinking, per usual.

I see CS has now taken up tiny’s mantle about “hypocrisy” as the greatest political sin of all—just more evidence of a Right-leaning political outlook. “There used to be this thing called a parent that was actually related to you”—sheesh, more bitter Grandpa-ism. How old are you, CS?

monty says:

September 4th, 2009 at 8:31 am

“America’s Rightists simply refuse to accept the existence of a Dem president, and for many of them the fact Obama is black is beyond the pale, of course. The are bug eyed with hate—over routine domestic policy proposals.”

While this might apply to the wingnut faction of the right, parth, I don’t think you can paint any and all conservatives as bug-eyed racists. Just as the outer fringe left portrayed W as a hick who couldn’t walk OR chew gum, now the ‘way out in rightfielders are now shouting about O and soci@lism. It’s all a part of the culture war for America’s soul that has been raging since Nixon, the political mainfestation being hysterical rheotric and personal attack-by BOTH sides.

adlib says:

September 4th, 2009 at 9:42 am

“Then why be a part of a team?”

Mea culpa. But money always helps.

adlib says:

September 4th, 2009 at 9:53 am

“If one is making literacy zingers, at least try to spell (or is it ‘speall,’ Dan?)

It’s ‘spiel’ 6DJ.

dubble_a_ron says:

September 4th, 2009 at 10:06 am

“The goal of the Right with all this daily nonsense (happily covered in all particulars by the MSM) is to delegitimize Obama as a national leader—to basically present every action he takes as worthy of manufactured “outrage” at the hottest rhetorical levels. ”

This statement is pretty cogent and I basically agree, Aprth. But then all your subsequent paragraphs make me guess you spend too much time listening to your own noise machine.

dubble_a_ron says:

September 4th, 2009 at 10:10 am

Whoops, Parth not Aptrh.

of cousre, as lnog as all the letetrs are prseent and the wrods are the rihgt legnth and beign with the rgiht lteter, spellign dosne’t relaly mttaer to most raedres.

MaW says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:14 am

“far too many billboards are in Spanish.”

And you know Spanish, so you can converse with those that you don’t like, right?

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:21 am

“America’s Rightists simply refuse to accept the existence of a Dem president,”

Parth you are so korny to the extent of lunacy. Maybe if Obama would govern domestically instead of letting the far left fringes of his party, Pelosi and Reid, do it for him, he would have more credibility as a leader.

“and for many of them the fact Obama is black is beyond the pale,”

Thats not true at all. Your a typical leftnut race baiter. But on the opposite end of your spectrum the left only voted for him BECAUSE he is black. Not Feeling so Groovey now that he has been shown to be human with limited capabilities to govern within his OWN party, parth? Have another valium and cup of hot chocolate. Get a grip.

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:23 am

“so you can converse with those that you don’t like, right?”

AHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:25 am

Ron, In wisconsin this is correct- “cousre”. according to the book of Favre

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:29 am

“KUNDUZ, Afghanistan – An American jetfighter blasted two fuel tankers hijacked by the Taliban in northern Afghanistan on Friday, killing up to 90 people, including insurgents and dozens of civilians who had rushed to the scene to collect fuel”

oops. But hey, now they know that a hyjacked tanker is no place to get fuel.

dubble_a_ron says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:34 am

Looks like Pawlenty has weighed in on this address to schoolkids thing.

Are they going to be passing out tinfoil hats at the next RNC?

Tiny bulbs says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:41 am

GO call me

John E Iacono says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:52 am

Let’s see if I have this right:

If republicans speak to the children, they have a political agenda. They most likely do. (Get reelected, in 1991).

If democrats speak to the children, they have a political agenda. They most likely do. (Boost ratings to strengthen position with congress, in 2009).

The opposing side objects in each case, feigning outrage over abuse of the office and federal dollars.

Sounds like pretty much the usual script here to me, unless I am missing something.

I wonder if the country can survive this traditional political exercise. But I don’t wonder very much.

Downtown Dan says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:53 am

Maybe if Obama would govern domestically instead of letting the far left fringes of his party, Pelosi and Reid,

Reid is so far right of the Dem’s center that 20 years ago he would have been a Republican.

“and for many of them the fact Obama is black is beyond the pale,”

Thats not true at all. Your a typical leftnut race baiter.

“Southern Strategy” ring any bells?
If you don’t think that approach is still alive and well you’re just not paying any attention.

Downtown Dan says:

September 4th, 2009 at 11:55 am

But on the opposite end of your spectrum the left only voted for him BECAUSE he is black.

No, the left only voted for him because he was as far from Bush as one can get.

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

“spellign dosne’t relaly mttaer to most raedres.”

The BQ might as well be the Auschwitz of the Spelling Nazis. On the BQ, spelling counts.

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

“No, the left only voted for him because he was as far from Bush as one can get.”

You actually believe this dont you?

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

“If you don’t think that approach is still alive ”

Oh it’s alive and well and the democrates are the best at capitalizing on it.

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

“I see CS has now taken up tiny’s mantle about “hypocrisy” as the greatest political sin of all—just more evidence of a Right-leaning political outlook.”

Accepting Hypocrisy, evidence of a left leaning political outlook.

” How old are you, CS? ”

How old are YOU Parth???????

Downtown Dan says:

September 4th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

Oh it’s alive and well and the democrates are the best at capitalizing on it.

I had no idea Jesse Helms was a Democrat.

monty says:

September 4th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

“Accepting Hypocrisy, evidence of a left leaning political outlook”

Accepting Hypocrisy, evidence of a partisan political outlook.

There, fixed it.

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

Clowntown Danno,
I didn’t say the democrats were the only ones using the technique. I just said they are the best at using it. But you did not dispute that, did you?

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

“Accepting Hypocrisy, evidence of a partisan political outlook.”

Accepting Hypocrisy, evidence of a parthian political outlook.

There, fixed it.

monty says:

September 4th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

“Accepting Hypocrisy, evidence of a parthian political outlook”

Oh, nothing partisan about that.
Gee GO, you sure are full of piss and vinegar today.

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

better to be full of piss and vinegar than to be full of sh:t like Parth and Danno.

Downtown Dan says:

September 4th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

…than to be full of sh:t like…

“We don’t see things as they are; We see things as we are.”

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

“We don’t see things as they are; We see things as we are.”

You don’t see things as they are; You see things as YOU are.

there, fixed it.

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pm

“We don’t see things as they are; We see things as we are.”

I guess that must make you paranoid, Dan. Sounds about right to me.

Downtown Dan says:

September 4th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

I guess that must make you paranoid,

Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean….

You don’t see things as they are; You see things as YOU are.

Ahh, the ol’ “I’m rubber, you’re glue” retort. Let me put this in a way you can best understand, NEENER NEENER POOH POOH HEAD!

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 2:24 pm

“Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean…”

…they’re not after you.

Back….and to the left. Back….and to the left. Back….and to the left.

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

Is poo/pooh spelled pooh or poo?

Pooh? Isnt that the stuffed animal?

Poo Poo head sounds like more of an insult to me.

parthian says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:01 pm

On the hypocrisy front, where is GO’s outrage over Rightist 6DJ’s use of the heinous “libtard”? It’s a cruel insult to the mentally challenged! That should bring howls of pained commentary from Oh-So-Concerned-for-the-Retarded GO, shouldn’t it?

Or could it be that’s just another manufactured GO-pose for use exclusively against the evil Left? You betcha!

BTW, do you think there are any white racists left in the USA, GO?

“Not feeling so Groovey…” I’m feeling fine, thanks. No need to project your (distinctly un-groovy) feelings onto others, GO…..

“far left fringes of his party….Reid” Only a monumentally ignorant rightwing sewage gulpin’ fool could write (and think) such nonsense.

“Sounds like pretty much the usual script here to me, unless I am missing something”.

You’re missing something, John—namely the distinction I drew in my earlier post. Look at the actual rhetorical charges being leveled.

As usual, the MSM allows the Right to dictate the daily “agenda” of the country.

GOoPer spokesman: Save our children from Obama’s soci*alist fascism!

MSM: How do you spell “soci*lism” again?

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

“Oh-So-Concerned-for-the-Retarded GO, shouldn’t it?”

The correct term is Mentally Disabled.

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

Parth, How old are you?

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

“BTW, do you think there are any white racists left in the USA, GO?”

There certainly are. Some voted for Obama because he’s black. Others voted against him because he’s black.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

“I see CS has now taken up tiny’s mantle about “hypocrisy” as the greatest political sin of all—just more evidence of a Right-leaning political outlook.”

I never said it was “the greatest political sin”. Just that we have a large supply of it.

“sheesh, more bitter Grandpa-ism. How old are you, CS?”

If you’d been paying attention you’d know.

I’m guessing I’m old enough to be your Grandpa.

parthian says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

Slow day in the old cube, eh, Deacon?

And no one will play with you!

parthian says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

“old enough to be your Grandpa”

Ha-ha, prob’ly not, but I guess anything is possible, Gramps!

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

“Slow day in the old cube, eh, Deacon?”

I took the day off. Im at home with my daughter.

How old are you Parth? How old are you Parth? How old are you Parth????

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

“How old are you Parth? How old are you Parth? How old are you Parth????”

Come on Deac…..Channel your inner JonR

parthian says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

One seeks understanding but hears only the silence of the universe…..

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

“Come on Deac…..Channel your inner JonR”

Why? So I can kill myself?

“One seeks understanding but hears only the silence of the universe…..”

Sounds like you’ve got your plans set for your friday night Parth?

How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are? How old are?

Deacon Blues says:

September 4th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

A winters day
In a deep and dark december;
I am alone,
Gazing from my window to the streets below
On a freshly fallen silent shroud of snow.
I am a rock,
I am an island.
Ive built walls,
A fortress deep and mighty,
That none may penetrate.
I have no need of friendship; friendship causes pain.
Its laughter and its loving I disdain.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

Dont talk of love,
But Ive heard the words before;
Its sleeping in my memory.
I wont disturb the slumber of feelings that have died.
If I never loved I never would have cried.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

I have my books
And my poetry to protect me;
I am shielded in my armor,
Hiding in my room, safe within my womb.
I touch no one and no one touches me.
I am a rock,
I am an island.

And a rock feels no pain;
And an island never cries.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 4th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

“Why? So I can kill myself?”

I was thinking more along the lines of:

ANSWER THE QUESTION!!ANSWER THE QUESTION!!ANSWER THE QUESTION!!ANSWER THE QUESTION!!ANSWER THE QUESTION!!ANSWER THE QUESTION!!ANSWER THE QUESTION!!ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 6:16 pm

Parth says September 4th, 2009 at 4:01 pm -
“On the hypocrisy front, where is GO’s outrage over Rightist 6DJ’s use of the heinous “libtard”?

Parth says September 3rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm –
“With this latest “Save the Children!!” Repub Retardation, Col Klink has officially gone off the deep end

And there you have it folks. You caught me. Except that I neither condone nor appreiciate the belittlement of the mentally challenged from the left or the right.

Parth your position under your selfrightous rock is secure. 6thD Jim has his own rock.

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

“You’re missing something, John—namely the distinction I drew in my earlier post. Look at the actual rhetorical charges being leveled.”

As parth has a breakdown……………

GO lonoscopy says:

September 4th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

“There certainly are. Some voted for Obama because he’s black. Others voted against him because he’s black.”

Well said Deacon.

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER says:

September 4th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

“There certainly are. Some voted for Obama because he’s black. Others voted against him because he’s black.”

And others voted black without voting for Obama.

adlib says:

September 5th, 2009 at 10:38 am

“of cousre, as lnog as all the letetrs are prseent and the wrods are the rihgt legnth and beign with the rgiht lteter, spellign dosne’t relaly mttaer to most raedres.”

Just add disclaimer:”Sent from a handheld device. Pardon spelling and punctuation errors.”

adlib says:

September 5th, 2009 at 10:53 am

“Poo Poo head sounds like more of an insult to me.”

Great. All I missed was a food fight. And here’s a platter of it..incomimg.

adlib says:

September 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am

“There certainly are. Some voted for Obama because he’s black. Others voted against him because he’s black.”

And then there’s the majority of Obama’s plurality. I hope this majority voted for him because he was the best candidate and despite the dangerous motivations of the hopefully small percentile of voters blinded by race. .

Downtown Dan says:

September 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pm

Poo Poo head sounds like more of an insult to me.

Naa, Poo Poo sounds like more of a Thai dish to me. “I’ll take the fried Poo Poo heads in green curry, please.”

The correct term is Mentally Disabled.

That’s “Mentally Challenged” to you.

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