Does Michele Bachmann want the U.S. out of the U.N.?
October 31st, 2006 – 7:03 PM by Eric BlackMany conservatives are leery of U.N. influence, especially over the U.S.
State Sen. Michele Bachmann goes a bit further. Her commitment to keeping the U.S. among the member states is on a “that remains to be seen” basis.
At the bottom of this post, I’ll link to the audio of the August interview in which she made that comment. And I apologize both to Bachmann and to those who might want to know her views of the U.N. for delaying so long in posting this. I always intended to write about a number of Bachmann and Wetterling issue positions, and I have a summary piece about those ready to be published shortly. But this one got left on the shelf too long.
When I first interviewed Bachmann in Feburary, (before I had gotten quite so used to recording all such interviews, bear in mind, I hail from the 20th century), I recalled her saying that she wouldn’t shed a tear if the U.N. left for New York for Geneva, and also sounding that she wasn’t all that committed to the U.S. remaining in the organization. So in August, I asked her to clarify.
First of all, she said jokingly, it was Brussels, not Geneva. On the more important question of U.S. membership, I asked if I had heard her right about being less than fully committed to continued U.S. membership.
She said the U.N. has had a “sorry” history from the beginning. She said U.N. peacekeepers had “brought a lot of destruction” in some African countries.
I returned several times to the question of whether she was committed to supporting U.S. membership. She returned each time to another objection she had to the U.N., such as the inclusion of Libya and Cuba on the Human Rights Commission, the lack of “accountability,” that the U.S. supplies the biggest share of the U.N. budget while the members states still feel free to “kick the United States in the shins” when the U.S. needed U.N. backing.
On the fourth and last time that I asked her whether, if her objections were not addressed to her satisfaction, she would have any reservations about the U.S. remaining in the organization, she replied:
“I think that remains to be seen.”
75 Responses to "Does Michele Bachmann want the U.S. out of the U.N.?"
There hasn’t been a poll on the Governors race in about 3 hours. I just conducted 1.
The results Peter Hutchinson 100% Hatch 0% Pawlenty 0%
Sampling size 1 margain of error 99%
Remains to be seen as in ‘I haven’t decided’ or as in ‘I don’t want to say’.
I’m guessing the latter. Why wouldn’t she want to say? Doesn’t want to be painted as ‘outside the mainstream’?
Mike – nice.
I don’t think Bachmann knows the purpose of the United Nations which proves that she would not be a good fit in policy making decisions.
Hatch has the flu, according to AP, as of 1 this afternoon.
I wonder how many polls like Mikes will be decided while the Attny Gen is sick.
Thats right Mike Hatch has the flu. The question you have to ask all Minnesotans is are we going to let this sick man run our state.
I can’t believe that Mr. Black wasn’t speaking to Bachmann without a tape recorder running until February of this year.
When you’re dealing with a politician with Bachmann’s record for telling the truth, showing up to interview her without a tape recorder is like showing up nude for the Winter Carnival.
Always get her on tape, always, always. If you don’t, she will lie about what she said to you the last time. Mr. Black knows that that’s true, from personal experience. She’ll lie while she’s testifying for Jesus; they’ve got that on video! Much of the footage and sound recordings that we have of Bachmann are records of her telling lies on the record. Never miss an opportunity to tape her; if you are looking for lies you are unlikely to be disappointed.
The UN is a corrupt debating society and really doesn’t do any good in the world. It should be totally overhauled.
Get rid of Kofi and his son to start with.
“Get rid of Kofi”
Talk less. Read more news.
It would be nice to be rid of that corrupt Anti-American organization. I think we could use the money we would save by tearing the building down to fund…ah…education? Libs would go for that wouldn’t they?
bachmann should be burned at the stake! bill, you grab the torches, dora will bring the lighter fluid and we can have a good old fashioned witch burning. mb isnt human is she? some of the people here crack me up.
SInce when is this an issue in the MN-6 campaign. This “interview” seems to be a witch hunt with no purpose. Will Eric Black do the corresponding inteview with Patty Wetterling and ask her is US foreign policy should be made at the UN?
The time has come for the US to leave the United Nations. The UN is an organization whose time has come and gone. The criticisms Bachmann makes are true and there are even worse issues, like the corruption of the UN over the Iraq issues.
When you consider that the Roman Catholic Church as been staunchly opposed to abortion and gay marriage, two issues that 6th District Michele Bachmann has built her political career upon; isn’t it the ultimate irony that Bachmann worships at a church affiliated with the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, a religion that has a core doctrine that says the Roman Catholic Pope is the Antichrist.
I guess it is acceptable to get into bed and with the devil if it advances your political career.
has anyone else noticed that even the threads on this star tribune blog are mostly anti-republican? but they arent slanted here are they?
Yeah, Michelle Bachmann will be the one to take the US out of the UN.
Right after she shuts down the Vatican!
“dare2sayit says:
October 31st, 2006 at 9:45 pm
The UN is . . . corrupt . . . and really doesn’t do any good in the world. It should be totally overhauled.”
Right on, I agree! Oh — excuse me: I thought you were talking about the US Congress. Never mind.
ms. wetterling, you keep saying will protect my children, but you could not protect your own. please explain?
I agree, Dane. Minnesota kids are just about as safe as they can get.
Now, grown women — unfortunately — are another story. The nation should wage a “War Against Rape” even more vehemently than the so-called “War on Terror”. And, for everyone’s sake, we should wage a “War Against Drunk Driving”. As many people are killed EVERY month on US roads as died in the 9/11 incident.
Sheesh Michael, enough with the antichrist thing already! Asked and answered, don’t you think? Christians recognize that one man died on the cross, and our differences are insignificant compared to that truth.
And the UN is a waste of oxygen.
dane, you cut and paste that tripe in multiple threads. Give it up.
ramrod, you don’t find me posting about Bachmann. I don’t live in her district.
That’s right. EB and the Strib are out recruiting people to post here. Talk about cracking up.
If she weighs the same as a duck, she’s made of wood.
And therefore?
A witch!
A witch!
Burn the witch!
Pat, what are you maundering about? I don’t understand.
Sorry, Pat. Different Michael.
No Pat, did you see the letter to the editor tonight? Bachmann answered the question but her answer was wrong. I think Catholics in the 6th want to know the truth.
The letter is below:
I read with great interest the Oct. 28 Blog House that reported that Sixth District U.S. House candidate Michele Bachmann worships at a church affiliated with the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, which “regards the Roman Catholic papacy as the antichrist.”
I then watched the Sixth District candidates’ debate Saturday evening and heard Bachmann say, when questioned about the Star Tribune item, “my church does not believe that the pope is the antichrist” and “that’s absolutely false.”
Being a voter in the Sixth District with two children enrolled in Catholic school, my curiosity got the better of me so I did some research by visiting the WELS homepage. I was surprised to find that one of the WELS core doctrines does indeed regard the Roman Catholic papacy as the antichrist.
I am thankful for hearing this before casting my vote and know, as a Catholic in the Sixth District, I will not be voting for Michele Bachmann.
OK, so if I understand you correctly, you have already decided on the truth and are pissed off that Michelle Bachmann won’t give you the answer you want to hear. I also went to the WELS website, and yes, buried within it is a theological treatise that quotes Martin Luther’s assertion that the papacy equates to the antichrist. It looks to me to be more of an obscure reference rather than a “core doctrine”. I am an Irishman named Pat, take a SWAG at my religion. The similarities are far more important than the differences.
I don’t live in the 6th district but it’s hard not to be interested in this race. Here’s what I conclude from afar: 1)Bachmann is thoroughly and consistently very conservative (but there is no evidence that she’s a witch
); 2)Patty Wetterling’s positions are not as clearly drawn, and she does not present herself very effectively. 3) that the ads and indeed much of the campaign on both sides have been intentionally deceptive. I can easily see why Bachmann has a strong base. She presents a polished version of many of the conservative arguements seen on this blog. On the other side, the liberal candidate doesn’t offer as clear a position. My conclusion: Bachmann is a viable and appealing conservative candidate and Wetterling is a neutral or weak candidate, but the country and the state are impatient with the Republicans and Wetterling will win by a tiny margin.
Tommie:
Many people have been taken in by Bachmann’s surface charm and the polished conservative image she tries to project for the mainstream media. But Bachmann is a NUT. A lying, delusional, hatemongering nut.
“We’re in a state of crisis where our nation is literally ripping apart at the seams right now, and lawlessness is occurring from one ocean to the other. And we’re seeing the fulfillment of the Book of Judges here in our own time, where every man doing that which is right in his own eyesâ€â€in other words, anarchy.†– Senator Michele Bachmann, appearing as guest on radio program “Prophetic Views Behind The Newsâ€Â, hosted by Jan Markell, KKMS 980-AM, March 6, 2004.
On the gay community and same-sex marriage: “This is a very serious matter, because it is our children who are the prize for this community, they are specifically targeting our children.† Senator Michele Bachmann, appearing as guest on radio program “Prophetic Views Behind The Newsâ€Â, hosted by Jan Markell, KKMS 980-AM, March 20, 2004.
There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.â€Ââ€â€Senator Michele Bachmann, Bachmann-Wetterling-Binkowski candidates’ debate. October 7, 2006.
On education reforms laws passed by the GOP-controlled US Congress: “Federal law forms a new governance structure that opposes both free enterprise and representative government…A new national curriculum is used that embraces a socialist, globalist worldview; loyalty to all government and not America.â€Â.  Michael J. Chapman and Senator Michele Bachmann, “How New U.S. Policy Embraces a State-Planned Economy†© 2001.
On whether her church, a member of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod teaches that the Pope is the Anti-Christ: “I’m a Christian, and my church does not believe that the Pope is the Anti-Christ, that’s absolutely false.”–Michele Bachmann, WCCO candidates’ debate.
“Since Scripture teaches that the Antichrist would be revealed and gives the marks by which the Antichrist is to be recognized (2 Th 2:6,8), and since this prophecy has been clearly fulfilled in the history and development of the Roman Papacy, it is Scripture which reveals that the Papacy is the Antichrist.‖Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod Statement on the Anti-Christ.
No Pat, she denies her church believes the antichrist business; to purposely mislead voters because it may hurt her politically is not a trait we need in Washington. There is already enough of that in both parties.
It looks like to me that the letter writer realized what was printed and what was said by Bachmann didn’t add up and checked for herself; I wish more voters would do that on all issues.
So Micheal;
Does that mean Ole Keith in the 5th should not be supported. After all, it’s a well known tenant of the Muslim faith that you should kill the infidels. That seems a bit more radical that callling the Pope the antichrist, at least for the unwashed masses out there.
Also, Should Keith be found not guilty of murder if he should find out one of his brother Muslim converted to Christianity? After all, the Koran says the penaly for that is death, therefore, He’s just practicing his religion.
Dora says
“dane, you cut and paste that tripe in multiple threads. Give it up”
I will give this up when I get just one answer, not until, and certainly not because keyboard commando Dora says so. You have power of jack $hit Dora 
dora, i did not say they were being recruited to here. you dont need to recruit, it is a meeting spot for libs, just like coffee houses and welfare lines.
Kasper – She appears to not understand the purpose or history of the UN, or the uniqueness of not having had a major European war in 2/3 of a century since WW II. She appears to be against the universal declaration of human rights, from her wacko EdWatch connections. She’s looking like a Jesse Helms clone these days. A piece of work. An obstruction to progress. Having a chance to be elected. By absentee ballot, I voted Wetterling already, and am proud to say so. A sound vote for a sound mind.
eric z – while those are the ideals that the UN was founded under (“never again”) can you honestly say that the UN is doing the job it was set up for? Can you say that it is relevant? I am not for abolishing the UN as I believe even if it provides a forum for discussion it is valuable but you can’t honestly say the UN has done its job. Clinton avoided the UN, going straight to NATO, for the Balkans.
dane, what makes you think Wetterling reads this blog since that’s who it’s directed to? You don’t want an answer you simply want to slam Wetterling and you’re using the abduction of her son to try to score political points. Typical smear tactics.
“i read some of the blogs”
Patty Wetterling on the Am 1500 a few weeks ago
nice try dora
Then you must be posting the same thing on every single blog she might possibly be reading. What a maroon.
i’ve posted it on 2 blogs, BITCH
heh. Aren’t you testy. well dane, surely posting it on 2 of the hundreds of blogs she might possibly read will assure that she sees it.
i get testy when people start calling me names. i also am not aware of hundres of minnestoa blogs. i only came out here after i heard her say that on 1500. i also asked her this on her website, but she has no response.
try being right just once
JUST ONE TIME DORA
Dane wrote:
You have power of jack $hit Dora
I’ve posted it on 2 blogs, BITCH
Eric Black wrote(In the Big Question missions statement which appears at the top of every edition of this page):
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Mr. Black’s hope is trying to dash Mr. Black’s hope, I guess.
Remember: the guy who is here to call Dora a bitch is here to attack Wetterling and support Bachmann–this is the kind of support the conservative “values” candidate is drawing.
Bill P, show me one post where I support conservatives? Dora Started calling me names, so I responded. But again, where have I posted I have “conservative†values?
I demand proof NOW MR P.
When politicians purposely mislead and/or lie they don’t deserve the public trust or be elected; I don’t care what party they are in.
I have one real regret. I don’t live in the 6th, so I cannot vote for Patty Wetterling.
Dane,
As a parent of two children, I am horribly offended by your insinuation that Patty Wetterling was somehow at fault for what happened to her son. The amount of vitriol it takes to say something like you did is unfathomable. Really, you need some professional help now. No joke.
oh boo-hoo, Dora called me a maroon so that justifies me calling her a bitch. What a whiner. There are programs to help with your anger issues. You should check into them.
Your post of what she said dane doesn’t say she only reads MN blogs. you on what she said: “i read some of the blogs†If you posted it on her blog and she didn’t respond then your only point of posting it here is to smear her. My original observation stands.
I’m sorry, Dane–your rude behavior and the anger you directed at Wetterling and Dora made me think you’re a conservative. Also, I notice that conservatives have a weakness for “internet shouting”: typing in CAPITAL LETTERS.
If I have mischaracterized your position, I apologize. I am genuinely interested–what do you support, besides swearing at people and demanding they reply to you immediately?
MS. Wetterling opened herself up for this when she came out and accused all Republican leadership of hiding Foley’s behavior, and basically supporting pedophiles, without a shred of evidence. She keeps saying she is a leader in protecting children, and again, I do not see it.
Dora decides to call me names, and then doesn’t like it when I elevate it. Tuff crap Dora! You started it so live with it. I stand by it so deal with it.
Bill P, you did not provide me with anything to back up your post. I’ll just leave it at that. If you were “genuinely interested†you would do your home work before you stick your foot in your mouth.
Jay, if you are so offended on a blog, then get off and protect your children.
I believe the add about Foley was a Democratic national add and not hers. Where Wetterling goofed was not pulling it immediately. Where as almost all adds have a grain of truth in them, that add was an obvious lie the first time anyone sees it. There are plenty of issues out there-she should have nipped that one in the bud.
you started it Sounds like you need a nap.
without a shred of evidence Still pushing that old line? Most people agreed that they were hiding something. Get over it.
MS. Wetterling made this claim when she gave the democratic national response to the weekly president’s speech, and she did this for purely political reasons.
I have a sore sport with her because I myself was a rape victim when I was very young at a scout camp. Ms Wetterling has spent years trying to run for office making claims she is some sort of national hero against child abuse, but I just don’t see it. The Democrats could have done much better than trying to find her an office somewhere based solely in sympathy.
Dora, you crossed the line, called me name, now can’t deal with it.
Go take a nap BITCH.
tsk, tsk, tsk. Such hostility. You can smear Wetterling but can’t handle being called a maroon. Typical whiner.
I handled being called a maroon just fine BITCH.
You don’t deserve an ounce of respect, and that is what you will get from me, BITCH
Dane – If you can’t give the swearing and hostility, stay off the blog. You’re making yourself look like and idiot.
I’m sorry to hear that you were victimized as a child, but I fail to see where you make the connection to PW. Was she supposed to have been protecting you personally somehow?
Oh yeah, sure, you handled it just fine, dane. You’re proving how well you handled it. Carry on.
also, dane, you cant bring up anything negative about a dem or dora will call it a smear job, even if its true, which she will never admit.
that being said, i am not condoning the behavior being exhibited here by dane and others.
that’s right ramrod, anything negative about a Dem is automatically true. Facts and reality don’t make any difference and when they’re pointed out attack the messenger to discredit the message. You can throw alot of accusations around but you don’t want to back them up.
i am able to back up everything i post. i do not find the need to go back and find something i have already seen though, but you are more than welcome to prove me wrong on any of those statements.
plus, you still do not get it, my point is that for every repubs wrong act, there is a dem one right there along with it. stop thinking your party is so pure and innocent- THAT is my point!
No that was not your original point. Anybody who reads back will see that. and THAT is my point!
i am starting to see danes point now too.
Dora says:
November 1st, 2006 at 5:13 pm
that’s right ramrod, anything negative about a Dem is automatically true. Facts and reality don’t make any difference and when they’re pointed out attack the messenger to discredit the message.
Dora, How can you say the above with a straight face? The complete opposite is true–and is made true through a complicit media.
Typical response ramrod, when you can’t refute the point. Just what I would expect.
The complete opposite of what is true miracleb?
queen bitch dora has spoken, everybody bow!
Bachmann just mislead again during tonight’s debate; she said her mother raised 4 children on $4800 per year. She fails to mention that her father was a well paid professional who always paid child support.
did you know this?
Amy Klobuchar’s campaign manager used to work for John Kerry’s Presidential campaign.
In 2004, Goldfarb served as Get Out The Vote Director for John Kerry’s presidential campaign in Minnesota
this one is for you dane. While her approach may be a bit harsh, I agree with many of her points. Opinionated? Absolutely. Pay special attention to paragraph 6 after the letter.
If this is to be believed the U.S. doesn’t want the U.S. out of the U.N.
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